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To:5:05am wrote on Feb 18, 2008 9:15 AM:

" I don't think so, Brian.
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BGS wrote on Feb 18, 2008 5:05 AM:

" I'm issue free you nameless coward. "

To:BGS wrote on Feb 17, 2008 8:03 PM:

" No, that soldier is obviously very clever, articulate, and quick thinking. But, I can see why you disagree, given the exchange on the religious right blog and the posts cited. You do have issues, don't you? "

BGS wrote on Feb 16, 2008 3:16 AM:

" How about 'tarded fool? Sorry, this si my straight talk jet stream.......I judge soldiers individually as humans....this one is obviously an idiot.
probably one of those getting off on naked Iraqi male butts. "

To:2:24am wrote on Feb 15, 2008 8:32 AM:

" Give me a break. You have every right to object to our reasons for being there. But to call our soldiers "'tarded" and a "fool" is disgusting. "

Bugs to 2:24 am wrote on Feb 15, 2008 7:50 AM:

" Very eloquent. Thank you. "

Bugs to 4:38 pm wrote on Feb 15, 2008 7:50 AM:

" Well, my "word" is based on independent researchers like David Ray Griffin, James Fetzer, Jim Marrs, Kevin Barrett and European press outlets like Radio France and Le Figaro. Put simply, the American corporate media serve the rich and the powerful and the truth is often a threat to the rich and powerful (9/11 being a great example)-therefore the media act to suppress the truth and give us a fairytale (Osama and the 19 hijackers) instead. "

Dear "To 3:00 am" wrote on Feb 15, 2008 2:24 AM:

" First off....my respect for "soldiers" is genuine and profound. I am an "Army brat", my father left some flesh in Vietnam, my Grandfather donned the uniform during the 2nd World War and my Greatgrandfather served in the 1st World War. I enlisted out of High School. So please. This rspect is manifest in my rabid protestations against US politicians, like Bush, who send our troops to their deaths in situations that have nothing to do with protecting the USA or my freeedoms. Sorry. All the troops in Iraq are doing nothing to protect me or my freedoms. They're protecting Exxon and Chevron's record setting profits. "

To: 12:12pm wrote on Feb 14, 2008 4:39 PM:

" I actually did see this myself.
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To:Bugs wrote on Feb 14, 2008 4:38 PM:

" Unfortunately, then, we just have your word. "

Bugs to 9:46 am wrote on Feb 14, 2008 12:31 PM:

" You don't understand how the media operate in this country. "

Michael Welch: I HEARD That -- Ummm Hmmm... wrote on Feb 14, 2008 12:12 PM:

" All part of the structure of such legends: I didn't see it myself but I HEARD that --. Very typical of how this stuff gets started and generates a 'life' of its own... "

To:Michael Welch wrote on Feb 14, 2008 11:11 AM:

" I didn't see the article or video myself, but another board mentions the soldier and "Osama, Obama Yo Mama" remark was on the MSN homepage. So, it looks like it actually did occur. "

Michael Welch: Genesis Of An "Urban Legend"... wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:52 AM:

" It's interesting that folks are debating an 'urban legend' -- this 'Osama'BamaMama' thing that someone has decided to recirculate ad infinitum it seems. The incident of course NEVER actually happened; it's obviously a right-wing political 'joke' (playing on the rhymes) that expresses the pro-wars theme in the pungent simplicity necessary to make it popular. The 'soldier' must remain unnamed -- he/she stands for supposedly ALL soldiers' views and the implication is that if one disagrees with this viewpoint one doesn't 'support the troops' etc. etc. I would assume this 'joke' has and will pop up regularly on many right-wing blogs and during the rest of the campaign. Get used to it! as they say... "

Michael Welch: Annie Oakley She Ain't -- Apparently... wrote on Feb 14, 2008 10:24 AM:

" Hillary KILLS Chelsea!!!!!!! Ah but she was aiming at Bill!... "

To:Bugs wrote on Feb 14, 2008 9:46 AM:

" If there was any actual proof of this, it would be all over the news. Seriously, I never heard this before. "

To:3:00am wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:43 AM:

" You must be kidding! Anyone(even Hillary supporters) who can't see this was a witty, humorous quote simply has no pulse. As another poster said-I don't care WHO you are, THAT was funny. And, I see where he is coming from. I fear what some of her ideas, if put into practice, will do to our country. And try to show our soldiers more respect. They are in the trenches defending your freedoms while you pick fights on message boards all day. "

Bugs Raplin wrote on Feb 14, 2008 8:39 AM:

" Osama bin Laden was treated for kidney problems at the American hospital in Dubai from July 4-14, 2001. He was visited there by the local CIA agent, and then was allowed to leave for Pakistan when his treatment was completed. At the time, he was our most wanted man, suspected of the embassy bombings in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole--but he was allowed to leave. Why? Because he and the 19 hijackers were the patsies set up to take the fall for 9/11. "

Dear "To BGS" wrote on Feb 14, 2008 3:00 AM:

" My reading comprehension skills are fine. The soldier said he feared Barack Obama and Hillary....what is he some sort of sissy? Fear has a real definition. What has this soldier to fear from two American citizens serving the public? Putting two Senators in the same comparative sentence with Bin Laden is downright 'tarded.....Obviously the individual hasn't the vocabulary tool set necessary to express his differences with the Senators and thusly has rendered himself a fool. "

whospeaksforearth wrote on Feb 13, 2008 9:29 PM:

" now if only there were no religion...no 9/11, no worrying about al qaeda or bin laden...now that would be the life "

To:BGS wrote on Feb 13, 2008 4:55 PM:

" I didn't see where he said he feared them all equally, only that he feared them all. The wrong person in the white house is cause for fear. Failure to see that is evidence of your ignorance. You are really having reading comprehension issues in the last day or so, aren't you? "

Dear "whospeaksforearth" wrote on Feb 13, 2008 4:36 PM:

" Keep up the just fight my friend.....let logic and reason remain our guide. Too bad Chelsea didn't kick the provacateur in the chops. Personaly I don't fear Bin Laden or Al Qaeda....its irrational considering their tiny numbers and lack of powerful weaponry. Nazi's....I'd have feared.....Al Qaedites....no. Their best PR comes from the right wing and the Bush Admin. Do you know how silly powerful USA looks shackling a bunch of skinny cave dwellers in prison fro 5 years looks to the rest of the world. We look like idiots. "

whospeaksforearth wrote on Feb 13, 2008 3:28 PM:

" hey BGS---i'm with you, any soldier (if that actually happened) that puts a mass murderer like bin Laden in the same category as barack obama and hiliary clinton IS an idiot...it's people like him that give our military a bad reputation "

To:Welch wrote on Feb 13, 2008 2:35 PM:

" I find some comments of yours contradictory and hypocritical. You state on one hand how terrible it is that people were using vulgar statements with respect to Chelsea, and even compared this speech to occurences at Bosnia. But on the other hand, you state it is fair and just that Hillary had the right to kill her when she was a baby. There is sort of a disconnect in your logic.... "

Dear "Diana" wrote on Feb 13, 2008 2:14 PM:

" Bill Clinton didn't fear women in the White House ;-) "

Dear "To To 9:54 am" wrote on Feb 13, 2008 2:13 PM:

" It does say alot....says we have some morons in our forces. "

BGS wrote on Feb 13, 2008 2:12 PM:

" A persons FEAR is directly related to a persons ignorance. When you were kids you feared monsters in the closet or under your bed. People fear flying. People fear sharks when they swim. This is all due to ignorance. Likewise...Bush and his followers extreme fear of Bin Laden stems from ignorance. We're spending as much now on Defense, adjusted for inflation, as we spent during WWII when we fought the Imperial Japanese, Nazi Germans and Fascists. That's due to ignorance. Anyone putting a US Senator in the same fear category as an Int'l terrorist is obviously an ignorant dufus. Most likely the soldier was trying to be funny. Being a soldier doesn't automatically garner you respect...there are many bad soldiers in our forces just like there are many bad people in our Society. "

To To 9:54am wrote on Feb 13, 2008 12:04 PM:

" That is a good point. I thought it said a lot that one of our soldiers-one of those actually there, in the trenches-saw Hillary or Obama as our Commander in Chief as a very real threat. People, that says a lot. Of course, the knee-jerk reaction of people like BGS is to denigrate the soldier. Whatever. "

Michael Welch: "Female Trouble"? Or Bad Memories?... wrote on Feb 13, 2008 11:25 AM:

" Also I think Jimmy has the 'right' to oppose Hillary Clinton for president and to critique her and it is clear that those blogs get FAR more comments and generate more discussion than Jim's speaking up for the disabled! (Who's AGAINST the disabled getting a square deal? Employers who fear health care charges -- yet another reason for a single payer national insurance!) And if one shouldn't vote against Hillary because she's a woman, one should be careful about voting for her just because. I mean would you vote for Ann Coulter because hmm?! Hillary's got 'baggage' -- from Bill, from a presidency that was in many ways a real disappointment; THAT's her main problem -- not her gender... "

To 9:54am wrote on Feb 13, 2008 10:45 AM:

" It is quite foolish to compare the fear of the wrong person running our country to a fear of pajamas. THAT sounds like an inability to assess threats. "

Michael Welch: Shrill And Bill? War And Peace?... wrote on Feb 13, 2008 10:19 AM:

" Well Obama, in Madison fresh from his sweeps, is for the first time actually ahead in the delegate count (by only a dozen or so) but campaigning in El Paso HRC did indeed sound even a bit uh 'shrill.' There was a minor dust-up last month over Hills' remark that Martin Luther King Jr 'needed' a president like Lyndon Johnson (a silly controversy because she was obviously correct) but Hillary seems more and more the Johnsonesque candidate to Obama's well you know, JFKish. Experience vs hope/change is again the mantra; however McCain fired his first shot too -- dedication to the wars vs the anti-imperium. Stay tuned! as Ronnie R used to say... "

Bugs Raplin to Diana wrote on Feb 13, 2008 10:04 AM:

" You represent all the foolish women voters who will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman. "

Dear "To BGS" wrote on Feb 13, 2008 9:54 AM:

" Anyone putting Osama Bin Laden and Hillary Clinton into the same "fear" category is an obvious idiot unable to properly assess risks and threats......the soldier should have his/her gun taken away. Maybe he/she also fear pajamas. "

To:Diana wrote on Feb 13, 2008 8:57 AM:

" Your 10:08pm post is sort of silly. You appear to fear men. It would be just as silly as if all a guy could come up with to encourage people to support McCain was "Go John. Come on, men. Support our boy!" As a woman, I find your post demeaning to women in general. "

To BGS wrote on Feb 13, 2008 8:15 AM:

" You have got to be kidding me?! That soldier is most certainly not an idiot. He is obviously very quick-thinking on his feet. I don't care who you like or who you support, that quote was clever and funny. "

To Brian wrote on Feb 13, 2008 7:13 AM:

" He keeps saying that quote because he thinks he's funny.(he's not). AND, because he's afraid of minorities and girls... "

Reschedule the MI & FL Primaries? wrote on Feb 13, 2008 5:19 AM:

" Isn't that what the DNC wanted them to do from the start. They wanted to be more important than everybody else and now they are. "

diana wrote on Feb 12, 2008 10:08 PM:

" Hillary is the one who has experience and the true drive to be the next president.

A Midwest girl, born with a Christian spirit and a true drive to make it right for everyone, especially in health care.

I think men are afraid of a woman in the White House because they know a woman can make it right!

Go Hillary. Come on women, support our girl!! "

To Jimmy wrote on Feb 12, 2008 9:00 PM:

" Do you think you could just go ONE week without a Clinton story? I asked before if you could go just one month, but I guess that's just too much for you. Is there anyone else that you hate so much? "

Also to it's only fair wrote on Feb 12, 2008 7:45 PM:

" Fair? Are you kidding. Barack Obama wasn't even on the Michigan ballot! "

To it's only fair wrote on Feb 12, 2008 7:23 PM:

" What would be unfair about seating the Florida and Michigan delegates comes from the fact that neither Edwards or Obama campaigned there. If you want fairness, then the only solution is to re-schedule these primaries so that both Obama and Clinton can start from scratch and compete on a level playing field. Also, back in January prior to the NH primary, Clinton was quoted as saying that the Florida and Michigan votes are "not going to count for anything." Apparently she's changed her mind. "

Walt F. wrote on Feb 12, 2008 4:57 PM:

" i say again and again not one on eaither side can get this coutry out of trouble. there talk is always what can i do for you. "

Dear "Perry Mason" wrote on Feb 12, 2008 4:34 PM:

" Obviously that soldier is an idiot and the repition of that stupid quote is annying and revealing. What's next from this soldier...spitwads? - BrianGSmith "

Dear "Its only fair" wrote on Feb 12, 2008 4:33 PM:

" If you think all votes should count what do you thik of the "super delegates" who skew the desires of the peoples votes? Hillary is banking on these primarily Washington insiders to give her the nomination despite Obamas huge lead in the popular voting.....It's only fair. - BrianGSmith "

Liberal Media Myth wrote on Feb 12, 2008 4:30 PM:

" Jimmy.....my God....how can you type those words...."Liberal' and 'Media" together? Its a "corporate media" and you know it. Issues like Nat'l health....getting out of Iraq and fair taxes are never covered by the media even though the majority of Americans want them, because they offend the corporate taskmasters......"liberal media" like the Do-Do bird and the phrase "fiscal conservative" are items long ago extinct......please refrain from reinforcing the lie.- BrianGSmith "

it's only fair wrote on Feb 12, 2008 3:12 PM:

" ok, so when did it become constitutional for the democratic party to disenfranchise eligible voters? kudos for hillary for having the balls to stand up to the democratic party to let the votes count. ALL votes should be counted, including Florida and Michigan. Good job Hillary!! keep fighting for those whose voices are stolen!! "

Perry Mason wrote on Feb 12, 2008 12:28 PM:

" I had lunch with that young soldier known for making the 'Osama, Obama, Yo Mama' story. We dined at Piggies. Both of us had the Angus Burger with crispy potato chips. I confess I had two of them as I as famished. I tried to tell the young soldier that he shouldn't be concerned with Osama, as Osama was just a patsy much like Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan and James Earl Ray-someone to take the fall for the real culprits. Unfortunately, the young soldier could not deal with such a thing, so I quickly changed the conversation to the upcomng baseball season... "

justaguess wrote on Feb 12, 2008 12:19 PM:

" to "Criticizing Hillary" That was just one person in all the troops assembled that day. I am sure if someone stood in the back of the room and shouted at Obama, "Shine my shoes" that also would have gotten plently of press play. "

justaguess wrote on Feb 12, 2008 11:45 AM:

" Jimmy, your position is very clear. You constantly say, "Billary." You can find many negative comments. I watched the whole live town meeting, while boring; it was nothing that wasn't said before. I still support Hillary. There were no shenanigans. Hillary does represent experience. Obama represent a vague promise to change the political process, opposition to a female in charge and of course brown skin. There you have it. If you hate women, or if you�re a Black racist, or if you dream of politicians playing well together then, Obama is your guy. Will Obama be a great president? Probably as great as George W. Bush. I do NOT want more of the same, you must just by what you say in your articles. "

Criticizing Hillary wrote on Feb 12, 2008 11:21 AM:

" You can add our troops to the list of Hillarys detractors along with the liberal media and mainstream Democrats. Consider the exchange that took place when Hillarys daughter Chelsea was visiting our troops. She asked one of our servicemen what he feared most. His reply was "Osama, Obama, and Yo Mama." "

Question wrote on Feb 12, 2008 11:09 AM:

" I have no personal email account. Can I still post comments, or did the rules change to only allow people to post who have email accounts? "

Michael Welch: Everything That Rises Must Converge... wrote on Feb 12, 2008 10:22 AM:

" Clearly flop sweat has penetrated the Clintonian veneer; Obama could win the nomination and even the presidency. Again I am reminded of `1960: the more 'experienced' Democratic candidates were Sen Lyndon Johnson of Texas the majority leader, Sen Stuart Symington of Missouri who had been air force secretary, Sen Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota who had become the most prominent liberal spokesperson in the senate and Adlai Stevenson, two times (1952 and '56) the party's nominee. John F. Kennedy was far more an 'ambience' of relative youth (42), certainly charm, wit and obvious intelligence but he hadn't an extensive record of legislative achievement. He was a 'feeling' rather than an 'act'... "

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