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Planet Stasiak wrote on May 8, 2008 9:19 AM:

" Thank you, Alfred. That sums it up quite nice. Brian manymiddlenames Smith, you are hardly one to accuse Alfred or anyone else of having an alias. Your generic first and last name, and alternating middle names, make you just as anonymous and "many" as anyone else. "

Alfred Hayes to Brian wrote on May 8, 2008 8:57 AM:

" Brian, my dear fellow, I have never posted under another name. I did post a little several months back(Michael Welch may remember me-we butted heads a little but patched things up). I have been back in my home country of jolly old England on holiday. Thank you for welcoming me. But, I must take issue with your "racial charging" post against our Dear brother Mr.Stasiak. Your explanation reeks of racism. Because Black people are capable of racism, PS must be racist? Because he finds Obamas association with Wright(both who happen to be Black) "icky", it follows he MUST be a racist? For shame, Brian. "

Dear Planet wrote on May 7, 2008 7:14 PM:

" Re-read my initial racist charging post....it was paraphrased from a black journalist and it makes alot of sense. Why is no one talking abut Hagee calling Catholics the great whores of Babylon? Or Falwell and Robertson blaming the USA for 9-11 in the aftermath? Obama is as tied to his looney preacher's remarks as McCain is to Hagee's....both are not tied....yet the Washington Post has run55 articles about Obama-Wright and only 3 about McCain -Hagee...same with the 'liberal' NYTimes....50 to 4. SOmething bigger is going on and you're throwing gas on the fire. Nice work brother. - BrianGSmith "

Planet to Brian wrote on May 7, 2008 5:05 PM:

" Ahhh, look who crawled out of the woodwork. Of course blacks are capable of racism. I asked for proof of your assertion that "I" am a racist. Which you still haven't provided. You just keep digging a bigger hole for yourself...try staying on topic. "

Harsch...to Joan touche wrote on May 7, 2008 4:35 PM:

" I really don't like doing such kinds of research, so we'll just say I am wrong if you like, there is no hate spewed on this blog against people from Iran to Afghanistan, towards liberals, etc. When a hate-filled post comes across my screen I will try to remember to alert you. "

RE To Bugs May PM wrote on May 7, 2008 3:34 PM:

" Actually your comment is the stupidest yet. White preachers can say radical USA damning stuff but the black preacher can't? You're saying Hagee is justified saying god sent a hurricane to New Orleans because of a gay parade? What an idiot this god is.....if he wanted to send a message to gays he should have destroyed San Fran, Manhattans West Village and your house. - BrianGSMith "

Dear To To To All and To Starfish wrote on May 7, 2008 3:29 PM:

" You have trouble posting the infanticide link because it exists only in your tiny, microscopic head. _ BrianGSmith "

Dear Alfred Hayes wrote on May 7, 2008 3:22 PM:

" Welcome to the blogs.....never seen your commentary before. Yeah...I called everyone judging Obama based on the sins of other african Americans racists. That's my opinion and the opinion of many african American leaders in this Nation as well as my neighbors and friends in Harlem (when I'm there). As I've stated before...I don't see race.....I grew up with heroes of all colors, neighbors too....of all colors. I've dated women of all colors and ethnicities and have dear friends from every corner of the globe and color spectrum. I think you're someone else using another name to make the argument look like there are more folks on your side......I could be wrong. (doubtful) - BrianGusseinSmith "

Joan to Rick the Harsh One wrote on May 7, 2008 3:17 PM:

" I have read every single post. Please cite a post or 2 that professes hate for any specific people group. "

BrianGSmith wrote on May 7, 2008 3:16 PM:

" Planet Stesiak says he is black....BFD ! Are blacks incapable of racism or self-hatred? Ask Planet....I know the answer. Anyone trying to lump Obama with radical blacks that live in his neighborhood are, indeed, racists. Planet is denying our BROTHER Osama his individuality. Alot of 'mericans worship under Hagee, Falwell and Robertson...all idiot racist losers who have completely and unequivocally blamed America for the attacks of 9-11....where's the anger. Oh, BTW..I have a life and occassionally leave the city and my high speed connection for the Sea shores of Liguria, South of Genoa.....I'm darker than Obama. "

RE To Harsch May PM wrote on May 7, 2008 3:03 PM:

" That's the stupidest post I've ever read. You know nothing of the mind and thoughts of God, don't flatter yourself......BrianGSmith "

Jerry Falwell wrote on May 7, 2008 2:59 PM:

" It's hot where I dwell these days. I was the ORIGINAL BLAME AMERICA FIRST after 9-11....I blamed America for the attacks of 9-11. I'm a right wing loser (I was). Why won't anyone talk of me blaming American and my friend Pat Robertson doing the same.? According to us right wing preachers America deserved 9-11.....it was God's damning of America. "

Harsch re Joan the Sour wrote on May 7, 2008 1:47 PM:

" If you think the pool is limited by my parameters you are not reading this blog very carefully. "

Harsch...Thanks God wrote on May 7, 2008 1:45 PM:

" I'm pleased as all get out that God provided his demo in New Orleans and not in Slovenia. "

to Harsch wrote on May 7, 2008 12:36 PM:

" God seeks to bring us to Him. However, God cannot be in communion with sin, so sin must be destroyed. If God destroys all sin right now, then many people (liberals, conservatives, Americans, Iraqis, etc.) would die without a chance of communion with God, so God has provided a way, the attonement of Jesus's sacrifice on the cross. If a person accepts that, then God recognizes that your sin punishment has been paid for. Why did God allow New Orleans to be ruined over some other place? Only God knows why. Maybe God was giving America a warning to turn from our selfish ways or God will remove His protective hand from us as a nation. "

Joan Sauer re Harsch wrote on May 7, 2008 12:22 PM:

" His question at 11:55am limits greatly his pool of potential responders, as he is only requesting responses from people who hate everyone from Iraq to Afghanistan. "

Harsch wrote on May 7, 2008 11:55 AM:

" I hope my responder missed the point. A previous poster says there is Biblical evidence, in effect, to support Hagee's lunacy. The question I raise to you haters of people from Iraq to Afghanistan, is why God chose to destroy a great American city instead? Or, why isn't He clever enough to create a disease that only kills American liberals? "

Planet Stasiak wrote on May 7, 2008 9:06 AM:

" I se Brian is trolling other blogs, so his lack of response to my inquiry below seems odd. Actually, it doesn't seem odd. It is just Brian being Brian. Trolling, trolling, trolling. "

To Harsch wrote on May 7, 2008 8:56 AM:

" How cute that you are so simplistic to think only good things will happen to good people and only bad things will happen to bad people. That is not how the world, or theology, works. Sometimes here on earth, the most evil of men prosper, and the best of men suffer. Not always, but sometimes. Key being here on earth. "

Harsch...trying my best to understand theology wrote on May 7, 2008 4:43 AM:

" So God destroys evil en masse...If you accept this, that means the people in New Orleans were more evil than, say, Osama, the Taliban, etc. "

Who is McCains preacher wrote on May 6, 2008 8:29 PM:

" If people think Haggee is McCain's preacher, they would be wrong. McCain did seek Haggee's endorsement, though. Now Haggee did apparently say that HE BELIEVED that God allowed Katrina to destroy New Orleans because of their open embrace of homosexuality. Haggee's basis for that belief come from the Bible where God did destroy the World of Noah because of mankinds embrace of evil. Jonah was sent to warn a city of God's wrath (Hurricane?) but they repented and the wrath didn't come. It's fine if you don't think God sent Katrina as punishment for homosexuality, but who really knows the WHY of God. That is still very different from Obama voluntarily following a man who thinks whites are demons, the CIA is making blacks take drugs and do crimes, and that America deserved 9/11. Wright is a wacko, God is Almighty. "

Ken Timbs wrote on May 6, 2008 4:16 PM:

" Harsch's post was more self-mocking than anything.
"

To All from Jimmy wrote on May 6, 2008 3:51 PM:

" Let's not get carried away with the name calling boys and girls! "

Bam Neely to Harsch wrote on May 6, 2008 3:16 PM:

" I would argue that if anyone finds Hagee more objectionable than Wright, they are swine like you, who contort yourself to fit the need of any hypocrite, any liar, any self-aggrandizing pocketlining pig, any hate-monger, warmonger, any who please their pre-conceived comfortable notions... "

Izzy Fabin wrote on May 6, 2008 3:05 PM:

" Harsch, your last post is indicative of a lazy mind. You must learn some tolerance for other peoples opinions in our pluralistic society. "

To Harsch wrote on May 6, 2008 2:59 PM:

" There is no "you". "

Harsch...entitled to my opinion wrote on May 6, 2008 1:31 PM:

" Entitiled to an opinion? Then why is Wright attacked? They are only his opinions that he expresses. You represent the most vile, dishonest Americans. Maybe it was true that God sent a hurricane to prevent a gay pride parade? Is that really an opinion at all? The American people object to what Wright says? How would anyone really know what they object to most--the media covers Wright/Obama, not Hagee/McCain. And if the American people find Obama's guy more objectionable they are swine like you, who contort yourself to fit the suit of any hypocrite, any liar, any self-aggrandizing pocketlining pig, any hate-monger, warmonger, any who please their pre-conceived comfortable notions... "

Ronnie Gosset wrote on May 6, 2008 12:44 PM:

" I don't think anyone who is a moral coward deserves sympathy from the media. "

To Bugs wrote on May 6, 2008 12:33 PM:

" Most people probably don't see McCains preachers comments as particularly significant. I know I don't. He has every right to believe whatever he wishes regarding God and whether He may or may not have judged New Orleans. We do still have that freedom, right? The medias coverage of the comments reflected the significance(lack thereof) of the comments. On the other hand, Wrights comments were very bizarre and warranted greater coverage. "

Bugs Raplin wrote on May 6, 2008 11:07 AM:

" Wright's remarks were publicized over and over and over by the whores in the media. McCain's preacher's comments on New Orleans were virtually ignored in comparison. "

To harsch wrote on May 6, 2008 10:35 AM:

" You obviously haven't heard Wrights most recent speech. Not saying I agree with McCains preacher, but what makes you so sure he wasn't correct? Isn't everyone entitled to their opinion? Including the American people, who found Wrights comments more offensive than McCains preacher? "

Bugs to Harsch wrote on May 6, 2008 10:29 AM:

" The government is capable of ANYTHING to all of us regardless of color. Witness 9/11, OKC, Waco, Iraq, Vietnam etc. Cannon fodder for the elite; imperial slaves; the sheep to be herded this way or that by the whores in the media. "

Harsch wrote on May 6, 2008 10:00 AM:

" All right, since it seems necessary: McCain sought the endorsement of someone who believed and still believes that God punished New Orleans for intending to hold a gay pride parade. He sought the support of this man and his followers--those who did not denounce him for saying something bizarre and despicable. Obama went to a Church where a preacher now and then said at least one thing that is bizarre--though explicable given government testing on blacks with syphillus who were led to believe they were being treated and actually left to die; so, Wright's point (and remember all the nuclear experimentation) was that this government is capable of anything when it comes to people of color. Now, try to be objective. "

Planet Stasiak wrote on May 6, 2008 9:12 AM:

" I can't speak for others regarding if they are motivated by racism. I must go by the substance of their arguements. That aside, B?S accused me personally of being a racist, and he was called on it by myself and Alfred Hayes. As usual, when he is caught in a lie, he took a powder. "

To Harsch wrote on May 6, 2008 8:43 AM:

" Why would McCains religious connections be an issue? Did his preacher, who he considered his confidant and advisor for 20 years, say the same things Wright did? You must compare apples to apples. "

Bugs to Tess wrote on May 6, 2008 8:29 AM:

" Norman Rockwell, the brother of George Lincoln Rockwell? Oh, Tess, you've outdone yourself. Thanks for the laugh. But two can play that game. I once discovered a bizarre portrait at a local garage sale. It featured Satan Cheney and his younger brother Dick. Pretty doggone spooky, huh? When I picked the portrait up for closer inspection, it disintegrated, leaving a whiff of sulpher in the air. "

Tess Trueheart wrote on May 6, 2008 6:28 AM:

" Let me get BrianGSmith correct. My husband, a general practitioner, has a framed print of Norman Rockwell in his office. Norman Rockwell's brother was George Lincoln Rockwell (note middle name usage there Jimmy) who was leader of the American Nazi Party. Therefore, my husband, according to BrianGSmith's logic, would be a Nazi. Anyone who can't see the error of this reasoning need to join Mr. Smith in getting out of their mothers' basements and getting a fresh breath of air and sunlight. (Feel free to leave on your tin foil hat.) "

Harsch to Planet wrote on May 5, 2008 6:06 PM:

" You're right, I did misunderstand. However, I think the rest still stands. The implications remain. Bush's close ties to Saudi oil include members of bin Laden's family, a connection that seems less likely for an objective
American to let ride than the connection between Obama and his preacher. The 'sins' of the brother, the 'sins' of the preacher--what really is the difference other than the political motive of the preacher. As for race and racism, I believe the coverage of the Wright/Obama relationship is largely motivated by, perpetuated by, and feeds racism. There is no other explanation for the fact that McCain's religious connections are not an issue. "

Alfred Hayes wrote on May 5, 2008 4:11 PM:

" It looks like Brian Smith accused our dear brother Planet Stasiak of being a racist in his 5/5 2:44am post. When Planet defended himself by pointing out he himself is Black, Brian accused Planet of making race an issue. Could Brian or someone point out where Planet made race an issue? Or, perhaps Brian is just doing some trolling today? "

Planet To Harsch wrote on May 5, 2008 3:54 PM:

" You misunderstand. George Walker Bush and Barak Hussein Obama are in the public eye, so we have the right to judge them according to who they associate with. I was referring to Brian middlenameamystery Smiths judgment of our poor brother Salem Bin Laden soleley on the basis of his sharing the DNA of Osama. "

Harsch wrote on May 5, 2008 3:10 PM:

" Planet just lost. He wouldn't judge someone by the sins of their brothers (brothers of a family of power, secrecy, warmongering, oil politics, scams against the people who elected them) but he would judge B. Hussein Obama by his preacher. As soon as you get caught trying to have it both ways, you lose. It's that simple. Your best recourse now, Planet, would be to honestly admit that you were wrong to draw any conclusions about Obama from his association with Wright (or, alternately, own up to the need to question the behavior of the Bush family in light of their associates and business partners). "

Izzy Fabin wrote on May 5, 2008 3:02 PM:

" First of all, you are the last person who should be talking about proper and improper use of middle names. Just because you use many different middle names yourself, an expert you are not. Anyway, I understand Barak Hussein Obamas platform all too well. I am also aware of his track record. As others have pointed out, he is a vocal supporter of infanticide against babies already born(as opposed to infanticide against the unborn through abortion, although he is favor of that also). I also find it telling that his most vocal supporters(like Bugs Raplin) accuse him of moral cowardice. "

Planet Stasiak to BrianSmith wrote on May 5, 2008 2:42 PM:

" It wasn't I who brought race into it, it was you. Dolt. Also, I would never judge someone by the sins of their brothers, as you appear to be doing. "

Dear Izzy Fabin wrote on May 5, 2008 2:34 PM:

" Obama is brilliant. He gets things done. He authored tough ethics bills immediately after elected to the Senate. Go to his website and read his platform. They may be to deep and profound for you.....he doesn't say stuff like "kill the enmey" every five words. Anywho, after Obama wins you'll get to know more. BTW...he goes by the name Barack Obama, he doesn't use the middle name. Most folks don't....so why do you continue to do so? Trust me, it just makes the dude look even more superior to you dither heads. - BrianGSmith "

George W Bush wrote on May 5, 2008 2:28 PM:

" Georgie has been associating with America hating Wahhabi Saudi's most of his life. When governor he had the Taliban over as guest of State. In May of 2001 he sent the Taliban $43 million which was later used to finance 9-11. So please......Obama haters....shut up. It's obvious folks are trying pathetically and desperately to tarnish Obama's overpowering momentum.....You all look stupid speaking to us who know the facts about Bush....so please take the windbag banter to the river. - BrianGSmith "

Dear Planet Stesiak wrote on May 5, 2008 2:24 PM:

" You're black? I'm tan. So what? Who asked? I don't see race. This gives me the moral high ground in this discussion. Raised in the military, everyone was green. Bush's family deals with Bin Ladens...where is your anger? G.W. bush's 1st of many business failures was finaced by Salem Bin Laden...Osama Bin Laden's brother. Can't get much closer to true America haters than that. BrianGSmith "

Barack Hussein Obama wrote on May 5, 2008 1:06 PM:

" has voluntarily associated with black racists and acknowledged terrorists. He has voluntarily chose to embrace them and work with them. Oprah Winfrey attended Wrights church for about 2 years, but she recognized that Wrights theology of hate was not for her and she left. Have you noticed that since the Wright dust up, Oprah has abandoned Barack Hussein Obama? She probably realizes that there is no excuse for following someone for 20 years unless you believe the same as him. I am not a racist, so for those who wish to prejudge me, it will fail. I long for more people like Tiger Woods (who is a republican) who celebrates all of his ancestory along with his American pride. "

Bugs to Izzy wrote on May 5, 2008 12:11 PM:

" You're right. Sorry about that. "

Michael Welch McCain As The Adlai Of ... wrote on May 5, 2008 12:08 PM:

" To answer Rick I'd say that many Americans ARE indeed deeply disturbed by the weapons of mass destruction ruse, the use of torture (McCain happens to be one of the disturbed) and the expansion of this subterranean world known as 'secret government' that commits its atrocities only for the public to discover 'later.' Bush is VERY unpopular I reiterate yet again; folks can't wait for January 20 next to get rid of him at last. Moreover his elections in both 2000 AND 2004 were questionable for many. McCain is as I've also said before perhaps the BEST candidate the Republicans could have chosen; the chief problem for him however is his endorsement of the war; with that he makes himself the 2008 version of Adlai Stevenson in 1952... "

Michael Welch Politics As Practiced... wrote on May 5, 2008 11:57 AM:

" The smear campaign is Roveian modus operandi, to win no matter what; it is also akin to the Lee Atwater philosophy that constructed the golem of racial fear for the notorious 1988 Father Bush campaign. The purpose of smear and rumor are that they bubble below the surface and the candidate benefitting never seem to directly stir the witches brew. Minions spread the muck and those at the highest levels always retain 'plausible deniability,' as per Nixon authorizing the Watergate break-in. W was desperate by South Carolina as McCain was undermining his stately march to coronation; something had to be done and Rove wouldn't leave any rock unturned I'm sure. The 2000 McCain campaign certainly had no doubts 'who' was behind it... "

Izzy to Bugs wrote on May 5, 2008 11:29 AM:

" I don't recall saying anything about Barak Hussein Obamas preacher. I do think it is telling that you, one of his most vocal supporters at least on these boards, accuse him of moral cowardice. "

Bugs to Izzy wrote on May 5, 2008 9:53 AM:

" At the risk of being redundant, Izzy, most voters this November will not give two figs about Obama's preacher. Take a look around, Izzy, the country is in crisis. People are out of work, they're sons and daughters are dying in Iraq, they're losing their homes...do you think for one minute, that those folks will vote for McCain? Izzy, Americans are famous for voting their pocketbooks. If that trend continues, say hello to President Barack Obama...now I should add that we can expect to see some steep declines in the price of gas come October. "

Izzy Fabin wrote on May 5, 2008 8:44 AM:

" Something interesting I have noticed, which someone brought up on another blog, is that even Barak Huseein Obamas most vocal supporters only support him because he happens to be the least of many evils. Even Bugs, who deliberately leaves out Obamas middle name in his 7:40am and other posts and always ends his posts with an enthusistic "Go Obama", has accused Barak Hussein Obama of being a moral coward. If your biggest supporters feel this way about you, you probably have problems. "

Planet Stasiak to Brianmiddle name a mystery Smith wrote on May 5, 2008 8:39 AM:

" I happen to be Black, you dolt. "

Tess Trueheart to Eddie wrote on May 5, 2008 8:29 AM:

" Perhaps you don't get the news in your free-love eco-commune, but Saddam Hussein is dead. It was in all the papers. Executed. Hung. Stung up. Texas neck tie. Finito, Benito. "

Tess Trueheart wrote on May 5, 2008 8:27 AM:

" In one of his usual brilliant posts, Johnny Hobo wrote, "Speaking of movies, this liberal smoke screen reminds me of the scene from the Wizard of Oz where the Wizard implores, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." Well, despite efforts like Jimmy's, we, real Americans, will continue to look behind the curtain and bring Barrack Hussein Obama's skeletons to light! "

As we get more details on his 18 year love affair with radical black nationalist Jeremiah Wright, now hopefully the media will address the issue raised earlier by Robert Johnson regarding Barrack Hussein Obama's drug dealing and running in "the hood."

When John Gotti finally got convicted, the federal prosecutor stated, "The Teflon is off and everything is sticking." As Yogi Berra said, "It's deja vu all over again." "

Bugs Raplin wrote on May 5, 2008 7:40 AM:

" I enjoy the postings of Tess and the Hobo. I really do. They are outrageously funny and, obviously, shouldn't be taken seriously. Unless he is assassinated, Barack Obama will be our next president. Go Obama!!! "

To Eddie wrote on May 5, 2008 7:01 AM:

" Great post and that's EXACTLY what I think people like Hobo, O'Bates, Yo and "Tess" are up too. "

justaguess wrote on May 5, 2008 6:21 AM:

" Is it fear, or just simply commercialism, I think both, after reading the blog responses. People do a lot of association based on a name, if it is true or not, well that depends on what you read and want to believe. "

Maybe Mikey could cite his sources wrote on May 5, 2008 5:45 AM:

" on Karl Roves participation in slandering JMcC in SC in 2000. Or is it just your assumption that Rove was behind it?
It was no doubt a supporter of W that got the ball rolling, but Mikey's assertion that Rove was behind it all simply cannot be proven. "

Handicap is a versatile word wrote on May 5, 2008 3:26 AM:

" We've got too many dummies on these boards who haven't a clue about the English language, it's words and the definitions and uses of words. Handicap or handicapped are extremely versatile words and their uses must be taken in context. Jonny Ho-o wailing and gnashing teeth over the word being used simply reflects the shallowness of his debating abilities......he/she is trying to Red Herring the discussion, so to speak. "

BrianGSmith wrote on May 5, 2008 3:22 AM:

" One day soon, if not now, the name Bush will be ridiculed and mocked and anyone with that lastname will certainly change it....It's synomyous with failure, stupidity and jock strap sniffing. "

Dear mk wrote on May 5, 2008 3:13 AM:

" You haven't been paying attention. It's the Repuglicons who push the doom and gloom agenda. Head tool in chief the shrub continually, with every breath he takes, tells us folks are trying to kill us......Also......liberal media? That's as coorect as "fiscal conservative"....both are simple catch phrases that hide the reality. Repub's spend like freewheeling whores and the media is controlled by huge international conglomerates who want us to but their products....war and soap...and who fail to question or challenge the gov't becaue they now work for them. That's Fascism......you're cheering for fasc ism. You need to wake up, your ignorance hurts this Nation. - BrianGSmith "

Dear Mess Falseheart wrote on May 5, 2008 3:04 AM:

" J. Edgar Hoover would most likely slip on satin panties and masturbate to the "evidence" against Obama.....You reveal your idiocy by alluding to the Hoover freak......a cancer once upon our Nation. You're also a simple minded racist..... To you and others behind in evolution if one black man acts out all black men have to separate themselves far from said angry black man. McSame has accepted the full throated support of Rev Hagee who has called the Catholic church the "great Whore" and claims catholics have a blood-thirst for Jews (among innumerous quacky nutjob theories he's espoused). If Hagee was black you'd probably fall into seizure and involuntary conniptions. BrianGSmith "

Dear Joni Ho-o wrote on May 5, 2008 2:53 AM:

" You also said....and this is the most hilarious part of your initial screed below....you said that repuglicons "do offer solutions, tax cuts, curb government spending, increase domestic exploration, drilling and refining of petroleum, fight and kill our enemies, both foreign and domestic. Sounds like a winner to me".....Have you been in some sort of suspended animation son? Te Repub's you mention have had control for 7 years (6 totally) and look at the diarhea they've brought upon us.....control spending???? Are you on crack? Repub's spend like proverbial French whores...curb spending...that's a good one Joni. And "killing our enemy".....what does that mean? I see Osama Bin is still cutting videos and mocking your DEAR LEADER. Let's let adults run this country not yahoo fake cowboys with their un-callioused hands and dimpled bottoms. - Brian Hussein Smith "

Dear Joni Ho-o wrote on May 5, 2008 2:46 AM:

" You'd vote for Jonah Goldberg? You're thicker than I gave you credit for. - Brian Hussein Smith "

Dear Planet Stesiak wrote on May 5, 2008 2:44 AM:

" You and others like you who continue to lump Osama with the preacher of the church he attended are plain and simple RASCISTS. I'm calling you out.....boy. You are so tiny minded you're incapable of allowing Obama and Wright to have individual views and lives.....you're a simple rednecker lumping all black folk together.....Obama has to carry the "sins" of all black folk. They should all be bowed headed good negroes to satisfy the seeting racists in our flailing Nation. Your kids should be embarassed. - Brian Hussein Smith "

welshy to harschy wrote on May 4, 2008 9:43 PM:

" Because all of those things you posted are false assumptions. "

Harschy to Welch wrote on May 4, 2008 7:25 PM:

" Why do you think that Americans are not up in arms, so to speak, over being lied to blatantly and led to war, over the tragedy and disgrace of Guantanamo, the nightmare of 'extraordinary rendition'? "

Eddie wrote on May 4, 2008 7:02 PM:

" It comes down to this: If you refer to Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama", but you don't refer to the other candidates as "Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton" and "John Sidney McCain", then you have an agenda. You have a specific reason for uttering the name "Hussein". It is then perfectly reasonable to suspect that you are trying to associate Barack Hussein Obama with Saddam Hussein. "

Michael Welch Another Thought On This Campaign... wrote on May 4, 2008 3:46 PM:

" There is an anti-Obama comment below that is I'd say, in part, defensible and that is the one that questions his relationship with Jeremiah Wright, though it extrapolates from it the smear (or fear) Obama is some sort of radical Muslim 'Manchurian candidate' which he of course is not. Those of us on the 'real' left, soshies and anarchists, plus the 'irregular' dissenters like say 'Bugs,' do find in Wright's assertions some truths that rile so because they disturb the cleaned up, homogenized right wing view of American history. Wright is then indeed 'radical' in aspect, though hardly an Islamic radical but the usual American one. That right wingers would oppose an AMERICAN radicalism seems a predictable and, from their side, legitimate stance... "

Michael Welch And Karl Rove Is Their Living God... wrote on May 4, 2008 3:01 PM:

" One commenter noted (far below) that those supporting Obama on this blog find him, as well as Hillary, less than 'ideal'; I think that goes for the Republicans re: McCain too. In 2000 people will recall the heavy-handed slander that was employed by the ugly Rove machine against McC, particularly in South Carolina. He was supposed to have fathered a black child out of wedlock; he was charged with mental instability from his five year imprisonment by the north Vietnamese; moreover he was too hostile to the religious right and too friendly with liberal Democrats like Russ Feingold. Now the Rovers who comment here smear Obama just as once their living god Karl did it to McCain... "

Michael Welch The Endless Campaign... wrote on May 4, 2008 2:50 PM:

" At this point in this truly 'endless' presidential campaign I am really not sure how it will play out. Obama does continue to retain his relatively small lead and garner, one by one, more supers but Hillary grows in strength with what used to be called the 'Reagan Democrats' and the fear of losing them to McCain must haunt Howard Dean among others. McCain of course is the Republican candidate by default -- the Bushites dislike him but they're stuck with him now and what sort of president he may actually be haunts some of them too. McCain is a good candidate with whom I profoundly disagree on major issues and will not vote for but I respect him. But what the result of all this strum und drang will finally be I wonder... "

Michael Welch The Lords Of The Flies... wrote on May 4, 2008 2:27 PM:

" Well 'JH's companion has entertained 'her'self again by deliberately distorting my comments which raises an obvious question, why? No doubt it' part childish provocation, the continuation of the taunting that the rightists here engage in for their own amusement, as well as to harass those they don't want to argue rationally with. That reiterates the anonymous playground aspect of this blog -- and dealing with naughty children after all gets really boring -- that makes everything said here seem superfluous. I regret that; I wish there was a change of heart, that the commenters below stop this game with my positions but I know it won't stop. I do believe this behavior degrades Jimmy's blog however and that's too bad... "

To Robert Freedland wrote on May 4, 2008 1:10 PM:

" Would the lies you refer to be the same type of lies when someone claims the Constitution forbids public displays of religious symbols, when in fact it does not do so? Or, are these "different" lies? "

Robert Freedland wrote on May 4, 2008 10:09 AM:

" In the midst of all of the name-calling, and slanderous comments being made here and across the country, it was interesting to read how this effort to save the Republican political 'hide' isn't working.

From a Washington Post story out today:
"A Louisiana Democrat captured a House seat held by Republicans for the previous 33 years, defeating a former GOP state legislator yesterday in a special election that Republicans tried to turn into a referendum on Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)."

I don't know why smears, lies, and distortions aren't working so well this year. "

Starfish wrote on May 4, 2008 9:24 AM:

" But in answer to your question, Jimmy, "What's in a name?" The answer, I guess, is whatever people can successfully associate with it. And as the price of that association rises from millions to billions for each election cycle, with tools ranging from Internet "leaks" to targeted TV commercials to whisper campaigns at state universities, the best, most competetent propagandists will win. "

Starfish on The Audacity Of Michael Welchs Hope wrote on May 4, 2008 9:19 AM:

" (And to Harsch) Yeah, I crave a little intelligent dialogue--mostly, from people that disagree with me and can intelligently express their case. Unfortunately, "Winning a Debate" has become an endeavor more resembling a marketing campaign, tallying the "increase in sales" at some later date--even by gaming the tally itself. I'm afraid Hillel/Shammai, Lincoln/Douglas--debates of true, timless merit--are dead. Instead, we're reduced to a daft correspondent quoting a months-old blog entry as a reliable news source to defame and vilify a candidate, probably because of his race. "

Harsch to Welchy wrote on May 4, 2008 5:55 AM:

" One trend I think I notice is that the serious discussion take place regarding religion, especially creationism versus evolution. Quite a few of the posters are knowledgeable and coherent. What is rarely discussed with any depth is the war in Iraq, or any war for that matter. This includes issues like Guantanamo Bay, 'extraordinary rendition', waterboarding, etc. The gross violations of human rights, international law, the corruption of the justice department--their complicity, are all glossed over...A list of cliches (e.g., cut and run) would fill a post. The underlynig problem seems to be the ascendancy of shallow patriotism over integrity of thought. "

Tess Trueheart - wrote on May 3, 2008 8:33 PM:

" Michael Welch is so true to say that Barrack Hussein Obama is "...guilt[y] by association [and]'guilty' of radicalism [and a] bolshevik [like] Trotsky.... Today [Obama is a] Muslim [and], by definition, radical Islamist. The pattern and lineage [of his hatred of America]are clear...[.]" Thank you Michael for admitting that Obama would refire the ovens of Auschwitz and Treblinka to rid the world of Jews, the retarded and those with handicaps. I know that people like BrianGSmith, Bugs Raplin, Mr. and Mrs. Robert Freedland and Jimmy, perhaps, would be very happy with that. It looks like Johnny Hobo, Planet Stasiak, harsch and MK will respectfully disagree.
"

If only wrote on May 3, 2008 2:57 PM:

" Barack's association with Islam was his middle name, then there would be no traction. But we know Barack voluntarily attended a church of a radical for 20 years. He felt so comfortable in that environment, he choose that radical as his spiritual and political guide. That man supports and values wackjobs like Louis Farakan and Hamas terrorists. Barack also voluntarily joined up with another unabashed terrorist in Ayers. Barack is either the most clueless rich dude or Islams dread candidate. "

Michael Welch The Audacity Of My Hope... wrote on May 3, 2008 12:52 PM:

" It's really sort of funny what goes on here at Jimmy's blog day after day now -- this constant picky picking in order to avoid any actual discussion of issues truly important to most voters. Here the anti-Obama commenters taunt those who are for Obama and we respond as if anything we said MIGHT change their minds -- which is as ridiculous as thinking that the silly ploys they use will change our opinions. We're sort of the Jets and the Sharks battling for Jimmy's turf and making not a dime's worth of difference to anyone lately; we're just talking trash to ourselves. I've come to like Jimmy's columns though and I like saying a few relevant things amid this apparently inevitable trashing; maybe some day I'll even receive another apt response -- very occasionally I do... "

Michael Welch An Historical Pattern... wrote on May 3, 2008 11:32 AM:

" Jimmy's blog column of course is not just about 'names' but about smearing people by continual suggestion and false implication. As I've written below it's been VERY clear for many weeks now the tenor of the campaign against Obama -- that it would accuse him of guilt by association in the same way it accuses ALL Muslims of being 'guilty' of radicalism simply by being Muslim. In the 1930s and '40s Jews were regularly charged with being 'bolsheviks,' i. e. communists, because SOME bolshevik leaders, Trotsky the most prominent, were Jewish. In the late '40s and '50s the Joe McCarthy 'red scare' accused socialists and liberals of being communists. Today the smearists accuse Muslims of being, by definition, radical Islamists. The pattern and lineage are clear... "

Michael Welch That Assertion Is False And Always Has Been... wrote on May 3, 2008 11:21 AM:

" Actually this falsity is part of the smear game this 'Johnny Hobo' continually plays. I NEVER said Obama had anything to do with 'radical Islam,' in fact I wrote the opposite. 'JH' goes on and on with it as his way of piqueing me and now he has a companion it seems. Obama as everyone here really knows is the son of a Kenyan named of course 'Barack Hussein Obama' who was born a Muslim but was NOT religious. Obama's stepfather was an Indonesian and also a Muslim but he too was NOT a religious man. To make this charge over and over is indeed part of the ongoing smear and to keep repeating that I have 'revealed' such IS false. It simply reveals the actual nature of 'Johnny Hobo' who pays no any attention to truth whenever it suits his purpose and whim... "

Jon P. wrote on May 3, 2008 10:02 AM:

" To tax and spend Democrats words like retarded or handicaped can be used whenever they want, but words like the given name of Hussein can not be used or else it's hateful or insensitive. That liberal logic also carries over when they are for saving baby owls but against saving baby humans. They are against legal cigarrettes but for legalizing marjiuana. "

Harsch...Wow wrote on May 3, 2008 9:55 AM:

" I thought Hobo was joking about the use of handicap, but TT surely isn't. And he calls B. Hussein Obama social vermin. The virulence of these anti-Obama folk can only be charged by underlying racism--nothing else makes sense. The guy isn't president: he hasn't done anything wrong yet. I guess his race is a handicap (yes, the word is commonly used in this manner and it is not offensive. Likewise such things as growth can be retarded, as can a line of questioning.). "

Yo wrote on May 3, 2008 9:32 AM:

" I don't ever recall using the middle name as being an "insult" on anyone in the past. Ronald WILSON Reagan - Mr. Wilson - or how about George Herbert Walker Bush - Herb - a spud? But in todays world the dems want us to ignore some facts, like he's 1/2 muslim, that he grew up on the "rich" side of Hawaii, attended private schools on the island, Ivy League schools here in the greater 48 states, yet he's supposed to represent the "poor, underpriveledged, down-trodden?" Give me a break! "

I must have missed wrote on May 3, 2008 9:12 AM:

" your outrage when General Petraus was called General Betrayus. And I'm sure you thought it inappropriate when Jimmy Carter's Campaign Chief said "remember if you vote for Gerry Ford you will be getting a Ford, not a Lincoln". And of course you took exception to leftist Folk Singer Joan Boaz referring to Ronald Reagan as "Ronnie Raygun".
Grow up!
"

Tess Trueheart wrote on May 3, 2008 8:37 AM:

" Jimmy, you need to face some facts here. First off, as Johnny Hobo has stated, it is Michael Welch who has often made past postings which refer to Barrack Hussein Obama's past daliances with radial Islam. (Image what J. Edgar Hoover would do with this!) Mr. Obama is no Martin Luther King, he's more like some social vermin on who John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy would order wire tapping operations. What I am most shocked at, Mr. Gillman, is your allowance of the degradation of the cognitively, physically and mentally disabled. From BrianGSmith's use of "retarded" as an adjective to Robert Freedland's use of "handicap." This bigoted, elitist language simply has to stop. I hope you will "man up" on this Jimmy. If not for you, for the sake of the children! "

Eddie wrote on May 3, 2008 8:37 AM:

" The Iraqi people will never vote for anyone with an English/German name. All they need to know about Christianity they learned on March 20, 2003. "

To Mr. Miagi wrote on May 3, 2008 7:39 AM:

" We had a president who had superior intellect and where did it get us. William Jefferson Clinton used his intellect to see how many bj's he could get from girls under his desk. You can have superior intellect, but it all depends on what you chose to use it to accomplish that is important. I guess it's kind of like what your definition of is is. "

To pm poster wrote on May 3, 2008 7:35 AM:

" Prove it. "

Harsch on the D.C. Madam wrote on May 3, 2008 7:35 AM:

" I haven't read anything on the DC Madam yet, but it is very difficult to believe she killed herself. However, I would leave Cheney off the list of suspects because I think he realises that he can get away with anything--where is the investigation into the Halliburton contract?; where is the public uproar?. His use of the services of the madam would scarcely be a threatening revelation to him. "

To Bugsy wrote on May 3, 2008 7:28 AM:

" Maybe you and Johnnie can go get help together. "

Harsch...Names wrote on May 3, 2008 7:22 AM:

" First off, Jon, your name derives from the same region and time as Hussein, so a vote for yourself or a vote for McCain is a vote for a name no different essentially than an Arabic name. Second, since so many who type B. Hussein Osama's middle name are liars, let me at least make it clear that it is not offense that is taken, rather disgust upon witnessing such a silly, tawdry tactic. Nonetheless, two years ago I would have said that a black man, especially with an exotic name as Barack Obama would have no chance of winning a presidential election. The simple fact that he has a chance indicates there is indeed something extraordinary about him. "

Jon P. wrote on May 2, 2008 9:07 PM:

" I know I will never vote for someone with a Muslim or Arabic name. All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11. "

Planet Stasiak wrote on May 2, 2008 7:13 PM:

" I dispute that peoples use of his middle name is attempting to link him with Saddam Hussein. No more than using Thomas Jeffersons last name is an attempt to link him to George Jefferson. And if you are saying that the soldiers response to Chelsea Clinton when she asked him what he feared most(Osama, Obama, and Yo Mama)is attempting to link Obama with Osama, then it is just as much an attempt to link Chelseas momma to Osama(I dispute either is the case). Sorry, people are just overly sensitive regarding this name thing. I think it is Barak Hussein Obamas supporters who don't like his middle name. It makes them uncomfortable, hence the defensive attitude. No one else cares. "

To To To All and To Starfish wrote on May 2, 2008 7:07 PM:

" Sorry I am having trouble posting the link. But Jimmy's blog on 3/25/08 is the one being referred to(3 cheers for Foxs Chris Wallace).Check out the first post people. These are recorded, undisputed facts. Starfish, specifically what do you allege that isn't true about that first post? Sorry, Obamas support of infanticide is well documented. I know it isn't flattering or pleasant, but it is true. "

Starfish to MK wrote on May 2, 2008 3:22 PM:

" So now to this fictitious litany we add euthanasia? I'm still waiting for ONE PERSON to produce ONE VOTE by Barack Obama in favor of infanticide. And any claim that he allegedly killed a vote to outlaw it is slander and hearsay. I've traced the claims and they are ALL from right wing noise-box blogs with no integrity of sourcing and no journalistic merit whatsoever. Personally, I'll believe that Cheney had the Washington Madame assassinated. We already KNOW he's a philanderer--we were just too busy talking about how he shot his buddy in the face to mention how he was at a mistress' game farm. . . "

To Planet Stasiak from Jimmy wrote on May 2, 2008 2:49 PM:

" Thank you for being a regular reader and contributor to my blog. That said, there have been countless assualts on Barack Obama's name on these pages; the constant linkage between Obama and Osama, as in Bin Laden, and the regular use of his middle name, Hussein, in attempts to link it with Saddam Hussein. "

Johnny Hobo wrote on May 2, 2008 1:52 PM:

" Nice apology there Bobby. Opps, wait, that's right, you didn't apologize to readers and Jimmy for using the smear, "handicap." But alas, I know you're not man enough to apologize to the mentally and developmentally disabled. Elitism has nothing to do with wealth, it has everything to do with a superior attitude and pseudo-intellectualism. Qualities that you appear to have in mass quanities. Kudos for showing your true colours! Well done mate. "

Bugs to mk wrote on May 2, 2008 1:41 PM:

" I don't put anything past Dick Cheney, a truly evil, evil, evil man. "

MK wrote on May 2, 2008 1:28 PM:

" This whole name game issue is stupid. Vote for the person based on their politics, morality, and views not on their name. Some of you Democrats on here sound just as stupid as those who use Hussein when referring to Senator Obama, when you say things like President Obama sure sounds good. Its about politics man. If you want to support someone who has promised to double your tax load with government run healthcare and other socialist programs, who wants to remove troops from Iraq, and throws his support toward the practices of abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia then vote for Obama. If not vote for the other party. The choice is yours, but lets sound somewhat intelligent when bickering back and forth between political parties. "

mk wrote on May 2, 2008 1:20 PM:

" Bugs-now you're trying to link Vice President Cheney to the death of the DC madame. You've got to be kidding me. Lefties like you will resort to blaming the president and vice president for anything. Like if your car ran out of gas, it most assuredly will be Bush's fault because of the high gas prices. "

Robert Freedland wrote on May 2, 2008 1:07 PM:

" Johnny,

Your assault on my comments confirms my assertion that words to have import. You jump from your intelligent observation back into the gutter of name-calling with the "elitist" jargon which only goes to undermine your entire comment.

Jimmy Gillman made an excellent observation about the power of names in Hollywood and how they play in the contemporary world. His comment wasn't "elitist". It was educated.

And is Barack Obama more "elitist" than John McCain? The same John McCain who owns eight homes and his wife makes so much money they refused to even release her income tax returns?

But President McCain sounds so much more, how should I say it, American? than a President Obama? Is that your view of it? "

Mr. Miagi wrote on May 2, 2008 1:04 PM:

" I love the posts on here referring to Obama as an elitist. Haven't we already gone through this? He make the least amount of money out of any of the candidates by a huge amount! This country clamors for a President "just like us". Obama is calm, intelligent, and thoughtful on his words and actions. He looks at the big picture before he jumps on an idea (gas tax holiday). Call me crazy, but I for one would like the person that is running this country to be far superior intellectually to myself. We've had a President that is "just like us" the past 7 years and he's led us into a war on false pretenses and a recession at the same time. "

Michael Welch Its Music To My Ears... wrote on May 2, 2008 12:52 PM:

" I notice that there is no real discussion of the wars or the economy in these 'Barack Hussein Obama' comments; they concentrate on the supposed implications of his background, his intellect and his rather generic liberalism. Making Obama THE ISSUE is that only 'hope' for another Republican president; and obviously Obama is perceived by Repubs to be the presumptive nominee because by far the concentration of fire is on him. If Hillary were leading we'd see the endless anti-Hillary & Bill bit so even the righties here think Obama will prevail. But Obama is quite likely to be the next president of the United States at that -- PRESIDENT 'Barack Hussein Obama' and I rather like the sound of it... "

Bugs to Hobo wrote on May 2, 2008 12:48 PM:

" How utterly unfair of you to mock Mr. Freedland's wife. She has offered no opinions on this board, yet you chastize her. Are you sexist, Johnny? Do you like to hurt people's feelings? Is there something in your psychological make-up that makes you act this way? Johnny, there is help for people like you. Please seek it. "

An now for something completely different wrote on May 2, 2008 12:47 PM:

"
Employers cut fewer jobs in April, jobless rate falls

Sorry to disappoint all you liberal/socialist, but looks like more good news on the economy:

May 2 12:22 PM US/Eastern
By JEANNINE AVERSA
AP Economics Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Employers cut far fewer jobs in April than in recent months and the unemployment rate dropped to 5 percent, a better-than-expected showing that nonetheless reveals strains in the nation's labor market.
"

pathetic wrote on May 2, 2008 12:42 PM:

" Grow up extremist conservatives. Are you that desperate? People are only called by their middle name if they use it themselves.

You people are like little kids. "

Bugs to Izzy wrote on May 2, 2008 12:38 PM:

" Yeah, you got it right. In my opinion, Obama is guilty of moral cowardice on 9/11. But as to "evil", I would rank Hillary as very, very evil, McCain is just plain evil, with a bad temper, who apparently called his wife a trollop and an (expletive), and Barack who is a relatively good guy, though a moral coward on 9/11. Sorry to interrupt the discussion a while back with the DC Madam thing, but it bothers me when a human being can be snuffed out like the DC Madam was, and there's nary a bit of curiosity by the mainstream media. Go Obama! "

Johnny Hobo to Robert Freedland wrote on May 2, 2008 12:30 PM:

" Wow, what an elitist attitude! To use the word (actually it's a smear) as, "handicap" (unless we're talking golf) is an abomination. I can't believe in 2008, someone, aside from a Golf channel commentator would use the word "handicap." It pains me to type it. I can tell that you (and your wife) consider yourself some sort of superior that you can mock the physically, mentally and emotionally diabled and challenged. Goodness, such elitism, I'm sure you mock "the common man" while you sip your Courvoisier each night. Exactly like Barrack Hussein Obama. "

To To All wrote on May 2, 2008 12:11 PM:

" Post the link to the Chris wallace blog. I can't find it. I find what you keep saying completely unbelieveable; especially since I can't find it. "

Michael Welch It Goes On Judah It Goes On... wrote on May 2, 2008 11:58 AM:

" The Bush administration is very unpopular; the war is indeed another Vietnam quagmire with indigenous militias representing politico-religious divides that Americans barely comprehend. The sunnis for instance have only 'allied' with US forces in Anbar province because the Americans protect them, pay them and supply them -- for now. The US economy is very bad for many re: mortgage loans, gas prices and now food rising. ANY Democrat -- specifically Obama or Hillary -- is VERY LIKELY to be elected president; ONLY an 'underground' smear campaign can elect McCain, a Repub most Repubs don't even like. That ugly process occurs on this blog every day and 'Barack Hussein Obama' is its emblem... "

Johnny Hobo to To Harsch wrote on May 2, 2008 11:47 AM:

" Amen brother! Usage of middle names has a proud and long history in our country: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Lyndon Baines Johnson,Orenthal James Simpson, William Randolph Hearst, Louisa May Alcott, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, John Forbes Kerry, Ronald Wilson Reagan. Toss in a few notorious souls like John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, Mark David Chapman. Even Jimmy and his alledged movie knowledge should remember a character like Charles Foster Kane.
Speaking of movies, this liberal smoke screen reminds me of the scene from the Wizard of Oz where the Wizard implores, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." Well, despite efforts like Jimmy's, we, real Americans, will continue to look behind the curtain and bring Barrack Hussein Obama's skeletons to light! "

Bugs-more on the DC Madam wrote on May 2, 2008 11:46 AM:

" The mainstream media, of course, will not investigate this at all. Time Magazine is quoting Dan Moldea as saying the DC Madam told him she'd never go to prison, intimating that she'd rather kill herself instead. That is bogus. Dan Moldea has written books saying that Vince Foster killed himself and Sirhan Sirhan by himself killed RFK. The DC Madam told radio host Alex Jones that if she turned up dead, it would not be a suicide; it would be murder. It is rumored that one of the DC Madam's clients was Dick Cheney. "

Robert Freedland wrote on May 2, 2008 11:45 AM:

" Jimmy,

Thank you for an outstanding post.

It is unfortunate that when you get to the point, everyone else dances around the issue having been caught doing exactly what you pointed out.

Names are the most superficial of things. They are easily changed unlike one's color or handicap and have been and shall continue to be used to both discriminate against as well as advance many individuals.

But they are signals and signs that like Morse Code can be exploited and manipulated by those who wish to arouse hate and distrust instead of more intelligent thoughts. "

Michael Welch Whats In A Name What Do You MEAN... wrote on May 2, 2008 11:31 AM:

" The name game re: Obama occurs daily on this blog and anyone who doesn't understand what is being implied is either slow to start or deliberately obtuse; and while some speeds do vary I think most comprehend well what's meant. I once noted to one 'Phil O'Bates' that Cecil B. DeMille, a great Hollywood director but unfortunately a right wing anti-semite, used to say such as 'VILLIE VYLER' when speaking of the French Jew William Wyler, another great director (of 'Ben Hur' among many others). The pointed emphasis on the mittel-European 'W' underscored 1) middle Europe is foreign, i. e. Jewish; 2) Jews = bolsheviks, communists, lefties. Now the right does this with Arab and Muslim names: Arab or Muslim = 'terrorist.' We read it here all the time... "

Izzy Fabin wrote on May 2, 2008 11:14 AM:

" What is interesting is that even the most vocal supporters of Barak Hussein Obama simply consider him the least of 3 evils. The most vocal supporter of Barak Hussein Obama on these boards is our dear friend Bugs Raplin, who ends almost all his posts with "Go Obama". Even he has accused Barak Hussein Obama of moral cowardice several times, most recently on the "just say no" blog. "

Bugs interrupts the discussion wrote on May 2, 2008 11:11 AM:

" Just reading on the Huffington Post that the DC Madam, who had information on famous clients, had told people that she feared she would be "suicided." And now she's a "suicide". What a country, huh? Just like Vince Foster. "

To harsch wrote on May 2, 2008 10:45 AM:

" People use my middle name all the time, but I don't see it as an attack. I have heard people say "William Jefferson Clinton" and "George Walker Bush" many times, and I never saw it as an attack. I doubt they or their supporters did either. Normally, people refer to others by simply their first and last names, true. But, it is certainly not unheard of to use candidates full names, as the above examples illustrate. The fact Barak Hussein Obama supporters take offense when William Jefferson Clinton or George Walker Bush supporters don't is odd. "

To All wrote on May 2, 2008 10:39 AM:

" Okay, then, I WILL attack the views of Barak Hussein Obama(oops, I apologize if using his name is some kind of attack or label in and of itself). Anyway, see the first post on the Chris Wallace blog. These are facts, people. Barak Hussein Obama is very outspoken in his support of infanticide. Let me be clear. I am not referring to merely his support of infanticide against the unborn through abortion. All democrat candidates support this, as it is part of the official Democratic Party platform. Barak Hussein Obama takes it a step further. He actually supports infanticide against babies already born. No other attacks or labels are necessary. That SHOULD tell you all you need to know. "

Harsch...dont be disingenuous Planet wrote on May 2, 2008 10:26 AM:

" Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, John McCain, etc...We know our presidents and contenders by the names they go by. If they use their middle names often, or their middle initial, then we go by that: LBJ, but only Gerlad Ford. Barack Obama was just Barack Obama until relatively recently when it became a fashionable sleaze to type in his middle name as well. As he doesn't use it, nor the media, the use of his middle name is obviously an attempt to associate him with things 'anti-american'. It's cheap, stupid, and stunningly revealing of the vacuity of those who wish him ill. "

mk wrote on May 2, 2008 10:24 AM:

" Desperation can be a label given to the Democratic party as well. Our liberal biased media daily feed us the stories of a world ready for collapse. They try to scare us with stories on global warming, the economy, and the War in Iraq. Truth be told millions of Americans, some that have even been labeled poor (which believe me I'm a part of), have it far better than billions of other people around this world of ours. We live in a great country no matter how much the media, and Democrats who embrace every scare tactic the media uses, try to convince us otherwise. Republicans only appear desperate because they fear what an Obama or Clinton White House will bring us, socialism not democracy. "

Johnny Hobo wrote on May 2, 2008 10:13 AM:

" I would vote for Dr. Condoleezza Rice, Julius Caesar Watts, Dinesh D'Souza, Jonah Goldberg, Linda Chavez and many others with "ethnic" names. The strange case of Barrack Hussein Obama is his Clintonian denial of his past alliances and religious/political partnerships. Since this radical liberal/socialist hasn't been fully vetted, it is now, during an election cycle that issues of his character must be exposed to the sanitizing sunlight. Republicans, I am not one, do offer solutions, tax cuts, curb government spending, increase domestic exploration, drilling and refining of petroleum, fight and kill our enemies, both foreign and domestic. Sounds like a winner to me! "

Bugs Raplin wrote on May 2, 2008 9:13 AM:

" I walked past Republican party headquarters in downtown La Crosse yesterday, and in the window was a t-shirt with a flag on it with the caption, "Try Burning This"...and I thought to myself when was the last time I heard of any American flags being burned by Americans in this country. It's obviously a rare thing, but the GOP are so blankety blank blank desperate, they'll try anything. "

Planet Stasiak wrote on May 2, 2008 9:12 AM:

" Jimmy, I am a regular contributor and reader of these blogs. I honestly can say I have NEVER seen anyone attack Barak Hussein Obama because of his name. I would like some examples. I have seen his views attacked, such as his support of infanticide and failure to distance himself from Wright. Never have I seen him attacked because of what his name happens to be. Honestly, Jimmy, if you are asserting that merely using someones middle name is an attack on them or labeling them, that is laughable. If Tony Curtis had not changed his name, and people referred to him as Bernard Schwartz, would they be attacking him? If he did a poor job in a movie and the reviews stunk, would you say the reviewer was labeling him because of his name? Come on, Jimmy. "

Bugs Raplin wrote on May 2, 2008 9:09 AM:

" I contend that at least some of the name changes of Hollywood actors were made, not out of fear of being thought Jewish, because their real names were too long to fit on a markee (Kirk Douglas) or were just too drab (Tony Curtis). The current "Barack Hussein Obama" ploy by the neoconrepublicans is just an example of their desperation. The country is in crisis and they have no answers, so they resort to name calling, flag pins, and the comments of Obama's pastor to rile up the electorate. "

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