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 Jimmy Gillman

Published - Tuesday, September 02, 2008

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McCain’s stunningly poor choice for VP shows it’s all about politics

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Say what you will about Barack Obama’s experience or lack of it, he’s still someone who has graduated from Harvard Law School and been president of its Law Review, no easy achievements. He has won numerous elections in one of the most populous states in the country, garnering more votes from a constituency 20 times larger than the entire State of Alaska. He’s won a U.S. senate seat, worked on national and foreign policy issues, and been directly involved in debates on war and peace as a member of the world's most deliberative body. He captured the Democratic nomination for president, requiring him (like all winning candidates) to pass the test of fire, involving constant national scrutiny, the full force of his opponents, including the no-holds-barred Clintons and the Right-wing attack machine, and he’s endured an 18-month long campaign that had him managing a staff of 2500 people (compared to the governor’s staff in Alaska of 50), a monthly budget three times larger than Alaska’s annual budget, and working in every single state in the country, resulting in more than 18,000,000 votes being cast for him. And when it was time for Obama to make his first big decision, which for every candidate is that of choosing a running mate, he was roundly praised by both sides for his selection of Delaware Senator Joe Biden.

Sarah Palin, on the other hand, has been governor of, population wise, one of the smallest of smallest states in the Union for barely 18 months, winning that position with a measly 115,000 votes (it’s humiliating to listen to otherwise intelligent people blather on about her “executive” experience). Before that, this beauty pageant runner-up was the mayor, yes, the mayor, of a town of less than 7,000 people -- 7,000 people! Setting aside partisanship and party demagoguery for one moment, does anyone in their right mind believe Palin is actually qualified to be within a heartbeat of the presidency? Sarah Palin fighting the war on terror; Sarah Palin as Commander in Chief; Sarah Palin going to-to-toe with the likes of Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s megalomaniacal strongman Kim Jong-il. Man, those guys are probably crying from laughing so hard. Is this just a terrible practical joke, a Saturday Night Live skit, a terrible nightmare? Palin’s selection by John McCain makes the first George Bush’s pick of Dan Quayle look like Albert Einstein.

John McCain doesn’t even know Palin, met her only once! Can anyone honestly say that Sarah Palin is better qualified to be president than Minnesota’s Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, Florida Governor Charlie Crist, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Rudy Giuliani, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, Ron Paul or even Mike Huckabee, all of whom were on McCain's list? And from that group of heavyweights he concluded that Sarah Palin is the best person to have her finger on the button. What?

So, for his first big test, McCain blew it; no, let’s not mince words or try to be clever, he completely screwed up, big time. Palin was chosen for one reason -- she is a woman. But the McCain forces have outsmarted themselves and it won’t work. In fact, it’s going to backfire. Countless women, other than those who are going to vote for McCain anyway, have already used words like “outrageous,” “insulting,” and “frightening” to describe this obvious, dangerous and politically motivated move on McCain’s part, showing he does not have the judgment, regardless of his age and experience, to make sound decisions.

It also demands that women, and Hillary Clinton supporters in particular, rebel against the choice of Palin by showing they are not so simple minded as to vote for a person of such radically conservative views based solely on gender. They should rebel against a candidate like Palin who publicly espouses withholding prudent sex education from teens in school and preaches the virtues and benefits of abstinence over birth control as an effective deterrent, an antiquated approach that did not prevent her own 17-year old daughter from becoming pregnant. And such a rebellion must start with far more than the disappointingly placid, opaque praise put forth by Clinton herself if the McCain/Palin ticket is going to be defeated in November.

McCain likes to accuse Obama of being someone who’s willing to risk losing a war if it means winning an election. Well, with the selection of Sarah Palin, McCain has proven he’d rather try to win an election than give the nation the best leadership he can in the event of his absence. Country First, as the new McCain slogan goes -- not this time.

The Republicans may be calling Palin a “game changer,” but she won’t be changing the game in their favor.

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To Nestor wrote on Sep 7, 2008 2:22 PM:

" What do you want Northsider? You post nasties on here you better keep up. Your not in denial are you? "

Nestor wrote on Sep 6, 2008 10:48 PM:

" Here is what I would like to know. Who is posting at (;20PM under the name of 'I Think'? Knucklehead, and where can I place a bet? "

Guess what wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:15 AM:

" At least an Ivy Leaguer could spell protocol. What has happened to our country when an EARNED Ivy League education is an insult? By the way the trooper was disciplined by the Public Safety Officer. "

To Harsch wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:51 AM:

" See post by "guess what". Is the picture becoming a little clearer? "

guess what wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:24 PM:

" If I start threatening the life of Governor Doyle and his public safety officer (who is hired by Doyle) does nothing about my threats, then guess what? Doyle's public safety officer will get fired. "Troopergate" is nothing more than the left wing liberal press trying to make a scandal out of thin air.

Now even if she broke 'protocall' to protect her sister or her brother in law, I would say she has her priorities in the right place. Only an Ivy leaguer would allow his loved ones to be hurt just so he could follow protocall. "

harsch wrote on Sep 4, 2008 5:43 PM:

" Where is your canvass? If the actual facts paint a different picture, why not paint them? "

To please read wrote on Sep 4, 2008 4:28 PM:

" Of course disgruntled employees who didn't perform their jobs properly are going to squawk and pantswet. The actual facts paint a different picture. "

Please read some stories wrote on Sep 4, 2008 2:01 PM:

" The Public safety Director says he was fired for not firing Plain's ex b-i-l. She didn't say that directly because she had learned by then to be careful. The Polics Chief and Library Director were given memo's, which they shared with the press at the time, that said they were fired because she felt they weren't loyal to her. She wanted the library to ban books she found offensive. And this is a woman who will take an oath to uphold the Constitution? I guess only the parts she likes. "

To Michael Welch wrote on Sep 4, 2008 1:11 PM:

" Do you have any proof that they were fired for supporting the incumbent mayoral candidate? Or do you know the reason the state trooper or public safety director were fired?(it wasn't because of being married to Palins sister). As Crimson Mask stated, check it out. Lets hear some facts, not innuendo. "

Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 4, 2008 1:08 PM:

" Look, I'm not infallible. I thought Hillary would be the nominee. It just seems to me that pressure will be applied to Levi to marry the girl. The Republican Christian right wingers (and that's why Sarah was picked, and most other people for that matter understand that these things happen. But I think it is a fair assumption that that constituency would object to the child being born out of wedlock. So Levi will have to get hitched, even though he doesn't want to judging from information from his "Myspace" "

Michael Welch Jawn MCain Iz Muh Name An I Rode The Skagway Train --... wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:55 AM:

" Rick's 'Uncle Lee' is absolutely on target re: the power firing of the public safety director who wouldn't power fire the state trooper unfortunately once mismarried to a Sarah sister and who apparently has NOT suffered enough. There's 'pressure' (hmm?) to 'dismiss' the investigation but the AK Repub legislators (who by the way DON'T LIKE Sarah) say naw naw we're continuing it -- scheduled for uh the last week in October! Get that cats huh. Mayor Palin once dismissed a chief of police in Wasilla AND the local library director(!) for supporting the incumbent mayoral opponent so there's a pattern -- and it ain't Clean Jean. 'Bowers' is definitely correct -- McCain COULD NOT have 'known'... "

harsch wrote on Sep 4, 2008 11:06 AM:

" I can't remember whether Bush was Ivy league or just bush league. "

Crimson Mask wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:21 AM:

" Re Lee's asserion of her being on a power trip. Look into this a little more, and you will see that the police chief and librarian got what they deserved, and the ladies brother-in-law deserved to be fired. Her position required that she be the one to carry out these tasks. She is a strong woman who is not the stereotypical womens-liber. Instead of crying about being held down by men, she gets things done and calls it like it is. Some people are threatened by that. "

To Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 4, 2008 10:16 AM:

" I would venture to say that some of us married folk posting here would object to your assertion that marriage is done for the sake of purifying things in the minds of the right-wing. "

Izzy re Harsch ten o one am post wrote on Sep 4, 2008 9:01 AM:

" Thanks for yielding on the point that hypocrisy "may" have been the wrong word. "

Next...on Dr. Phil wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:27 AM:

" Shotgun Marriages...special guests Todd and Sarah Palin "

Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 4, 2008 8:10 AM:

" The pregnant daughter thing doesn't concern me much, except as Harsh and Welch postulate, the poor kid, Levi, is now going to have to get married to sort of purify the situation in the minds of the Christian right wing. Two things concern me. Palin is under investigation for abuse of power-firing someone, who wouldn't cooperate in the firing of her brother-in-law. Couple that with her mayoral treatment of the police chief and librarian, and you've got someone who obviously is on a power trip. Not good. Second, McCain obviously is lying when he said he checked Sarah out. No reasonable person would have chosen her with so much baggage. "

Patriot wrote on Sep 4, 2008 5:24 AM:

" Sarah Palin just sunk the Obama cruise line. The Democrat Titanic just doesn't know it yet. She is a smart, great looking, tough, but compassionate Mom, that Many, many people relate to or want to be like. Not only will she pull a substancial number of dissed Hillary supporters, but she will bring in many voters who have been turned off by the Ivy league run system. People are tired of the same-old, same-old and Obama is just more of the same. McCain and Palin are the best proof that change can happen.

Like she said in her speech, some politicans use the word change to advance their career, but McCain has used his career to advance change. "

harsch wrote on Sep 4, 2008 1:55 AM:

" I posted comments about sex in order to counter what I view as rampant prudery. If you wish to discuss this on a more personal basis, email me at rick.harsch@gmail.com and supply your own verifiable details and I will be happy to discuss my personal life with a person. "

I think wrote on Sep 3, 2008 9:20 PM:

" McSame dumps her by October first. "

To Nestor wrote on Sep 3, 2008 9:14 PM:

" Should we talk about some of Bush and Cheney's dirty deeds? Like the evidence for going to war? Outing CIA agents? That sound like a "B" movie to you? Those two men should be in prison for what they have done to this country. The Republican Party has ruined this country. "

To Nestor wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:53 PM:

" What's the matter? Get tired of posting under the "North Sider" moniker? You Republicans STILL are fascinated with Clinton's zipper aren't you? "

To Nestor wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:51 PM:

" Why don't you just stick to complaining about TIFS? Your much better at that. "

To Harsch wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:16 PM:

" Did I read right on one of these blogs that you said that you have an average of 5 different sexual partners a year? The reason I ask is because you post your opinion on Palin's daughters sexual activity and I want to better understand your view on sexuality. I also understand that you are married with one child. How does your wife feel about your extra sexual partners and how do you think you child will feel when he or she finds out that you have multiple sexual partners other than his or her Mom? "

harsch to Jimmy wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:43 PM:

" Just for the record, Zakani is a real historical figure and the quote is from memory but quite accurate. At the time he wrote a sort of fundamentalism was encroaching on freedoms Persians enjoyed, with Imams writing tracts listing dozens of ways to be a good Muslim. He satirized it. One of his strictures was 'Do not jump into a well unless it is absolutely necessary.' That quote I am sure is correct word for word. The other, none of the essentials are wrong. With that I defer to your judgment, though long for the re-acceptance of biting satire. "

harsch wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:37 PM:

" reduce does not mean eliminate "

To Peeping Gene wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:25 PM:

" Well said. "

Luscious Johnny To Harsch wrote on Sep 3, 2008 4:05 PM:

" Your assertion that sex ed classes reduce teen pregnancy proves my point and refutes yours. Palins daughter becoming pregnant would be the logical result of no sex ed classes. So, there is no hypocrisy. What one would expect to happen happened. "

harsch...exhausted by analists wrote on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 PM:

" I'm still thinking over the hypocrisy matter, as indicated by the post you may or may not have read posted at 10:01. The irony meter is about as high as it goes, and certainly this sad gem of a story exposes the lunacy of the anti-sex ed and abstinence dips. And of course sex ed classes demonstrably reduce teen pregnancy (consult your local sociologist). But if mom is holier than thou that means you too baby, and of course young ladies do like to spread themselves open to anti-mommy ideas. "

Michael Welch Stone Or Coen Brothers... wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:54 PM:

" You're referring to -- oh yeah 'him,' the 'root of all evil,' the 'blame president' BILL. Am I right? Er left! -- er correct! Yeah Bill WAS/IS entertaining; he had genuine entertainment value but Monica and Paula Jones were minor 'affairs' compared to Whitewater, Waco, Mena and Vince Foster eh. THAT's where Ollie Stone would go -- begin with Monica sure but after you warm the audience up with the familiar, get to the REAL dirt. I agree -- as I said below -- at this point the Sarah show IS just 'soap' -- BUT the oily gas stuff and the 'independence' party have potential and I hope Ollie remains alert because if Big Jawn and Sarah Pales win there's a MOVIE in it that could fascinate. I'm interested!... "

Nestor wrote on Sep 3, 2008 1:31 PM:

" Welch- This is a class B movie compared to the Classic stains on dresses, lost Rose law firm records, land deals, and naughty oral activity in the Oval Office. Most of all the denials, Oh the denial. "

Peeping Gene to Harsch ten o one and ten o two am posts wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:50 PM:

" You can no more assert that sex education in schools prevents teen pregnancy than you can assert drivers education in schools prevents teen accidents. The fact is, Palins daughter(as pointed out by your responder) never stated her position regarding teen pregnancy or sex education in schools, or if the two are connected. No position whatsoever. The exhaustive analysis would be all the news coverage of this "event". In all coverage, right or left, liberal or democrat, no mention of her daughters position on these issues. "

To Harsch wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:27 PM:

" I never heard Palins daughter state her position one way or the other regarding sex education in schools. So, I ask again, where does the hypocrisy comes in? "

Michael Welch The Palin Soap -- As The Mooseburgers Turn... wrote on Sep 3, 2008 12:04 PM:

" Palin's a good choice to keep the religio rightie anti-abortion fanatics in thrall; also she's a helluva lot more interesting with two sons named 'Track' and 'Trig' -- what's THAT about?! (John Wayne as 'Track Callahan' in 'The Wagon That Rolled' with Kirk Douglas as 'Loonmax'? Hmm.) The hubby works for oily guys but NOT as I understand 'in a managing position'? So a real hard hat, go off hunting every chance he can sort? The son opts for obscurity, the military and Iraq? Teen daughter (photo in the Arizona Republic has her with the 'patented' Dan Quayle 'deer in the headlights' stare) pregnant at 17 and marrying what bozo? Geez don't make the kid MARRY the guy just so you look 'square' with the church, Sarah! Big Mac -- you picked a 'winner' indeed! THIS, folks, IS ENTERTAINMENT!... "

Michael Welch Ol Sarah Palin Came Outta The Wilderness --... wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:50 AM:

" Look I have no kick against 'honest graft' aka 'earmarks' -- Palin was FOR the infamous 'bridge' and the state has ALREADY collected part of the federal dough (thanks -- suckers!) and when the Stevens-Young mess blows over and Palin maybe 'outta town' some magical appropriation MAY reappear at the opportune moment huh -- especially IF the new president of the senate is the ex-gov of Alaska? (Wink, nudge!) It seems too that she and the REAL mysterious family member, Todd Palin (and recluse son 'Track'), were once Pat Buchanan folks plumping for an 'independent' Alaska -- as a 'republic, not an (oil) empire' maybe? Todd and Track spent most THEIR free time AWAY in the wilderness apparently, while mom played PTA. Geez poor Todd! Does he HAVE to go to Washington? Hunt squirrels in Rock Creek park?... "

MIchael Welch Honest Graft... wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:40 AM:

" The sheen on Palin inevitably scratches; she was initially a Stevens protegee of course and WHO appointed her to that oil and gas commission, ducklings? None other than Big Frank Murkowski. No one has seen Preston Sturges' ahead of its time 1940 political satire 'The Great McGinty'? No? In it 'the Boss' (the wonderfully comically sinister Akim Tamiroff) needs a 'reform' candidate when the incumbent mayor's graft and swindling boil over the pot; he picks an ambitious ex-hobo now an alderman (played with wry toughness by Brian Donlevy) who queries 'Whadda you got to do wit' the "reform" party?!' The Boss twinkles -- 'I AM the "reform" party -- whadju tink?! I go outta business ever' time tings CHANGE?!' Palin is the new great McGinty I think; some day maybe she too will be making mai tais in banana land?... "

harsch...the missing link wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:05 AM:

" First of all the internet isn't old enough to have 'an old tradition'. Second, books and journals still exist. Third, lack of link is certainly not evidence of 'blowing smoke' any more than links necessarily prove anything. "

harsch wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:02 AM:

" By the way, where is the evidence of any objective, exhaustive analysis? "

Harsch...more of nothing from Izzy wrote on Sep 3, 2008 10:01 AM:

" One reason sex ed is taught in schools is to prevent teen pregnancy. Maybe hypocrite is the wrong word. Maybe simply misguided, or out of touch. But maybe hypocritical if she does not change her mind about teaching sex ed. I don't know if she believes in abstinence or not, but apparently her daughter doesn't. Anyway, the news does not delight me because I feel sorry for the poor schmuck who will now have to marry into that family. "

Izzy to Harsch wrote on Sep 3, 2008 9:19 AM:

" You better yield on this one. An objective, exhaustive analysis of the Palin pregnancy simply doesn't indicate hypocrisy in any way, shape, form, or matter. And you know this, don't you? When someone is met with a challenge in their life, people like you love to shout hypocrisy, not because of any true understanding of the word, but because it sounds good to you when trying to cut on someone. "

Question wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:57 AM:

" Why would McCain drop her? He knew about the pregnancy when he picked her. He stated he knew it wasn't relevant to the campaign. For that, he should be commended. Many candidates would have run from that and not looked back... "

To Harsch wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:55 AM:

" Where is the hypocrisy in Palins daughter becoming pregnant? Specifically, what views held by Palin or her daughter changed due to the pregnancy? "

DJ wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:39 AM:

" yeppers...almost, but not quite as bad as the
dumocrat choice for Prez, followed by their
VP selection!! "

John Sidney McCain III wrote on Sep 3, 2008 7:07 AM:

" is going to drop her just like Bush did Harriet Miers. He's going to get who he really wants. This is just a test. Only a test. You just watch and see. "

Im still wrote on Sep 3, 2008 7:02 AM:

" betting that McCain dumps her. Romney is still in the running. "

Hey Jimmy wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:55 AM:

" Why are you so upset at McCain's pick? Are you worried they will win? "

If you libs all really thought wrote on Sep 3, 2008 5:28 AM:

" Sarah Palin was such a poor candidate, you wouln't all have your shorts in such a bunch and the major media wouldn't be going nuts trying to destroy her. We have idiot women writing letters to the editor that they think it's a personal afront to them because she is not Hillary. You have all lost it! I only hope the Palin family can hold up under all the attacks and show all of you what fools you are. "

Reply to Jimmy from Big Spender wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:03 PM:

" Ah well, out go the links: after all it is not my board. But, in defense of links: it's an old Internet (and Usenet) tradition amongst political bloggers (especially on Usenet) to demand that assertions be backed up with a link as evidence unless the assertion is common knowledge on that particular board. No link means the commenter is blowing smoke.

Suggestion: if time is a factor, why not make this forum 'automatic' and immediate like those Tribune boards attached to the news features? Moderated boards tend to get stale anyhow because users tend to suck up to the moderator.

As to my comment: google "Palin Alaska secession" and Palin "I was for the Bridge to Nowhere before I was against it" "

To Big Spender from Jimmy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:40 PM:

" Unfortunately, I couldn't post your comment because it contained links. I simply do not have the time to vet all links, so I'm not posting comments with links to websites. I'm sure your links were legit, but others (not from you) have led to hates sites and the like, so I'm just not posting any comments containing links. I welcome your comments, and I'm sure you'll be able to make them effectively sans any links. "

Harsch Hypocrisy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:36 PM:

" Harsch, Harsch, Harsch, Harsch.....Harsch wouldn't the daughter have to be the hypocrit? wouldn't she have to have had to espouse a belief in abstinance in order to be a hypocrit? Do you really believe that Sarah Palin's daughter doesn't know where children come from or how they are made? Isn't that what sex education is for? to teach children how babies are made? where STDs come from? Do you know any of the answers to these questions or, typical of the raging left, are you just making stuff up? "

Re Harsch Hypocrisy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:25 PM:

" So you know then that Sarah Palin is not a loving, caring mother? You know that she is making a political career of teaching abstinence? Wouldn't it be an 'irony' that a woman who supports abstinence has a daughter that gets pregnant? Do you know what you are talking about or are you just blathering on as usual hoping that you finally say something with substance? "

a look back in history wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:07 PM:

" Gallop poll results show Fifty-five percent of the 948 registered voters interviewed in the poll said they preferred to see Mr. Dukakis win the 1988 Presidential election, while 38 percent said they preferred to see Mr. Bush win. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points. This poll was taken the night after the Democratic convention. "

Taxpayer wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:58 PM:

" What do portfolio managers (trust companies), stockbrokers, attorneys, and government workers all have in common? They still reap their paycheck even if they lose, screw up, or don't' produce. "

re harsch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:54 PM:

" Conservative family values doesn't preach abstinance without sexual education. When you start of with a false premise, you usually wind up with the wrong conclusion. My children have been taught that abstinance is the ONLY sure way not to get pregnant, but they have also been taught about everything necessary to create a baby and what sexually transmitted diseases are. As with kids anywhere, they can choose to follow the direction or follow their feelings. Public education on sex is like telling kids to try not to drink and drive but when you do drink and drive be sure to buckle up. "

davidinlse wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:54 PM:

" RE;Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:41 AM: Rice wasn't picked because she was the incompetent national security advisor to shrubbie the smirking chimp. "

Nestor wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:09 PM:

" Mr. Jimmy- I called in on WIZM tonight. I asked your take (being Jewish) what you think of our surrounding large metropolitan areas seemingly not able to raise Senator candidates other than Jewish people. My point- Extremely low single digit segment of Midwest population. Two Jews currently fighting for the Mpls area Senate race, after one poor guy died during his term that was also Jewish. Then go over the border and add Kohl and Feingold to the list. Now remember that only one of these candidates was Republican. Can the Democrat Party in this area surface a candidate who is not Jewish? Could be just a little lopsided? How about some honest critique/scrutiny of this obtuse scenario, after you are done bashing McCain's choice? "

What was Taxpayer doing in here wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:36 PM:

" He must of been looking for somebody. "

daump wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:01 PM:

" Jimmy,
I heard you on the radio this afternoon. The reason I called to complain about the bus stopping is because, according to the police I talked to, putting the STOP sign out was not required. I cannot tell you how often I was almost rear-ended because I was stopped on Hwy 33 on my way in to town because the STOP sign was out on the bus. There was no need to stop traffic going BOTH directions. That's the other side of the story. I wish you daughter nothing but good. "

harsch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 6:01 PM:

" Izzy, write something of substance--that's a challenge. "

Harsch...okay hypocrisy then wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:55 PM:

" Hypocrisy is not being a loving, understanding parent; hypocrisy is making a political career off 'family values' to the point where you espouse abstinence and no sex ed. in schools until your daughter is pregnant and then you demand accountability as if the boy were schooled elsewhere and did not want to simply bang your daughter. Try, please try, to be honest... "

Ricky wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:43 PM:

" I'll take Palin's real world experience as an administrator while mayor and governor anyday over Joe Biden. Biden has spent 36 of his 66 years uin the US Senate,and has never really held a real job. "

If the Palins wrote on Sep 2, 2008 4:05 PM:

" were willing to kill their babies, these "highly intelligent" "discerning" people would love her. But they shot down the 2 big reasons libs think women should kill their babies: because they are not in a good position to raise him/her, or he/she has a medical problem and is not perfect. Man, that's gotta hurt! Keep spoutin off. I'm gonna laugh my butt off if she and McCain win. "

Banger wrote on Sep 2, 2008 4:04 PM:

" The major objection from liberal blogs like this is that she is pro-life. Liberals are absolutely in love with abortion and I suspect most think she should have aborted her less than perfect baby. "

election wrote on Sep 2, 2008 3:17 PM:

" Picking a good looking woman will surely get a big chunk of the moron vote (aka MTV crowd). This is no different of a tactic than Bill Clinton going on MTV discussing whether he wears boxers or briefs. As a Republican I agree she's not the best pick, but I understand McCain's strategy in doing so. Unfortunately you gotta suckup to the huge idiot population. Am I scared that she's 1 heartbeat away from the presidency? No, I think she's level headed enough to lean on her advisors in a crisis and learn from experts. That's what all Presidents do, they have a team they rely on. "

Izzy has a new favorite wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:38 PM:

" Harsch stating someone can be a hypocrite without having stated a view. "

Froto wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:24 PM:

" Well Lee, shows how narrow minded you are. the DUI was 20 years ago, who cares and Obama smoked dope and who knows what other drugs he did, again who cares. Clinton had Monica, who cares I'm sure you were on top of the band wagon in that case saying his personal life does not matter. Kennedy was womanizer and had more affairs and one nite stands than than their bees in bee nest, who cared, no one knew then and if that was now you would say who cares. You see the thing is as long as it is your candidate everything is OK , as I said very very shallow self rightous dems. "

Froto wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:14 PM:

" The one sure thing is that the dems and their press will attempt to destroy her and her family. Allready they have attacked her daughter for being pregnant, yet fail to mention that if Obama's mother at age 17 had aborted him they would not have him to vote for. Was she then a bad mother? This is just the beginning. They are also blasting her decision to keep the baby with Down Syndrom. Oh yes these compasionate individuals, concerned and so caring of everthing and everyone until or unless it goes againts something they want. Liberal Dems, no concrete core values they change with the wind but they do love to tell everyone else what is right and wrong and how to live. "

Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:12 PM:

" Yeah, Sarah kept Alaska safe from a Russian invasion. Man oh man..and here I thought this election year was going to be a gigantic bore. Thank you to Sniper Fire Hillary, Bubba, McCain and Sarah..and yes, thank you to all those defending McCain's choice..thanks for the laughs. I am sooooo lucky. "

Michael Welch The Next War Is Brought To You By Our Old Sponsors --... wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:03 PM:

" The greatest subterfuge is that 'presidents' decide this country's foreign policy -- they do not. Iraq became a 'problem' NOT because it was a participant in the 9-11 legend but because it was needed for oil. The Bush admin botched it because Rummy and the neo-cons misthought it would be a run over a la 1991 and disbanding the Ba'ath and the army created 'al Qaeda in Iraq.' By late 2006 the same sort who told LBJ in February '68 that 'changes' must be made, told W; and Iraq has been 'pacified' -- for a time -- but now the Afghans just wanna be 'free' of 'US' and the Afghans have a LONG history of hardball resistance to empires. McCain AND Obama want a 'renewed' Afghan war and NOBODY talks about it. Why? It's none of OUR business -- it's been decided by the folks who REALLY run this country... "

Michael Welch Trackdown In Iraq -- Take My Kid Take Jenna And Barbara --... wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:40 PM:

" I dunno about uh 'my party' but the ONLY presidential candidate I voted for whom I today have no regrets or qualms about was 'that pansy poet George McGovern' (as 'Nixon' characterizes him in the Ollie Stone picture) who remains the ONLY anti-war candidate nominated by (sigh!) those 'TWO (count 'em TWO) major parties'! Maybe I'll vote Obama here in AZ -- IF it seems Mac may lose his mainstay which is unlikely at the moment -- but I may well vote 'Green' (Cynthia McKinney) or for Nader because the warS will continue no matter and I deeply despise the warS. Palin however has a kid who'll actually be in Vietnam er Iraq next month -- that's FAR MORE than ANY other big wig Repub has 'sacrificed' for their beloved oil empire. Give her a point on that... "

Re Harsch Hypocrisy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:36 PM:

" Where is the hypocrisy in a teenage girl getting pregnant? Rebellion against parental controls? Experimenting with feelings and the ways those are demonstrated? I didn't think you could be a hypocrit without actually stating a view? I advocate abstinence and yet if my child make a mistake and I support her choices if responsible & informed, where is my hypocrisy? Maybe one of you eduuuuuuucated folks could enlighten me. I know that I am one of the foolish, soulless minions, but then...hey I am American.... "

Michael Welch From The Class Er Glass House... wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:30 PM:

" I don't support McCain and Palin because I believe Obama will at least tilt his tax plans to aid the middle and the poor; I think he will lean more toward Hillary's health care (a 'better' if not 'best' deal) and I certainly agree with the Big O on the 'social issues' and know his appointments to the supremes will aid in retaining Roe v Wade. Sure Biden is 'better qualified' on paper than Palin but Stephen A. Douglas was so in 1860 contra Lincoln. Palin may evince personal 'corruptions' such as wanting to bop her sister's ex but that's what law suits are for. And ask NOT for whom the glass house shatters, it shatters for thee. Palin is a political pick and not a bad one re: Mac; as for foreign policy there are 'others' who will take care of that -- for BOTH candidates... "

Kevin wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:26 PM:

" Harsch you didn't disappoint me with this... "then some fool" and "...soulless peoples...". I think it is good that you are promoting such civilized discourse. John Edwards is an embarrassment...he had given vows to be loyal and faithful to his wife. He is over 40 years old, old enough to know better, old enough to understand the hurt he is going cause to his family. The Palin girl.... Oh alright, it's the same thing 17 vs old enough, single vs married, dependent family vs dependent within a family.....looks the same to me..... "

Harsch to Welch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:13 PM:

" Mikey, this is Rick, not your former neighbor but your current friend. I think you should stop bending so far backwards to be 'fair'. The right is already touting Palin's foreign policy experience gleaned from 'neighboring' Russia. Give her a little less credit. Obama, as you well know, is an extremely intelligent and capable man, far and away a better choice for any office than Palin. Of course he is a minion of empire, but who isn't? Al Franken? Palin is also likely guilty of exacting executive revenge on a former in-law. Does Obama have such a charge to fend off? Keep the fight in the intellect, remember the dead, think about the best way to reduce the future numbers. Like Obama hopefully will, save the nuance for the post-election. Who do you want calling at 3 a.m.? "

Harsch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:05 PM:

" Regarding sex education I am an autodidact. Otherwise, I have taught myself how to enjoy sex, and learned how nice it is to have it often. Now that I have been married for more than ten years (second marriage) I have reduced the number of partners to fewer than five per year, but I revel in each experience and expect to continue to do so for some decades more, spending more time in the sack having sex even than many of you spend time out of the sack worrying about the sack. "

Taxpayer wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:05 PM:

" And your Party picked the 'Peanut Farmer'? This guys time on WIWZ is enough to make any conservative taste their lunch once more. From a paper that gave the seal of approval to the Riverside Center sham? To a paper that their 'mother company' is losing their shirt as their stock topples? Hey Jimmy! List your resume in business. I will patiently wait for it. Take the government money out of Lacrosse and Michael, you, and people like 'On Too Many Boards' would starve. "

Ronnie to Michael wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:02 PM:

" I will agree with you and another poster that Barack Hussein Obama took the high road by declaring a persons family off limits in no uncertain terms. The problem is, Obama was the only senator to vote against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. In other words, he would support the right of Palins daughter not only to kill her baby now, but also to kill it after it is born, if she chose not to do so now. I am reasonably certain she won't make this "choice." But, the fact Barack Hussein Obama would allow her to make it is troublesome. "

Harsch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:00 PM:

" I am talking about hypocrisy. "

To Michael wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:53 AM:

" Usually your thinking is more reasoned. First, re your neighbor: see a sampling of comments re his post: everyone, right and left wing alike, seems to find his comments abhorrent. Next, Palins pregnant daughter underscores the point that becoming pregnant is not what is objectionable--it is how you handle it. I have never heard McCain or Palin condemn any pregnant teenager. Never. "

Michael Welch In ALL Familiies... wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:38 AM:

" The pregnant daughter is an embarrassment but remember a la John Edwards I warned righties that some day similar embarrassments can come THEIR way. Palin sort of (well the daughter actually) 'proves' the anti-abortion stance but so much for 'abstinence training' eh? The daughter must have missed that class I guess. Obama took the high road on this by declaring people's children 'off limits' (hear that uh 'neighbor'?) but what would happen -- especially HERE -- if the circumstance were reversed eh? The Coulter trained vultures on Jim's blog would lick their lips -- yummy! Palin however has uh 'taken it like a mom' and again underscored her connects with 'ordinary folk.' It happens as they say in the 'best' as well as in all 'in between' families hmm?... "

To Harsch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:38 AM:

" I hope you are kidding? Sex education in schools certainly would not have prevented her pregnancy. Many people who have had sex education in schools still become pregnant. Perhaps you could use a sex education course yourself...you are lost, brother. "

Michael Welch Palin On The Porch... wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:29 AM:

" Having said that I don't see Palin in the same way as Jimmy does; in fact I think she's certainly a 'political pick' but so is EVERY veepster; and as for 'experience,' re: Obama, I don't know that it matters so much if the candidate, as Obama obviously is, is capable, sharp, reflective and flexible. Palin is 'only' a governor of a 'small' state (in population!) but she is 'feisty' as they say. And I can't imagine three politicos who'll be working harder for the McCain-Palin ticket than Ted Stevens, Frank (and Lisa too!) Murkowski and Don Young. Get Palin OUT of Alaska! will be their covert call. She's surely interesting huh -- just like the Big O -- but of course she 'changes' (THAT word again!) nothing ideologically, only symbolically... "

Michael Welch Change We Can REALLY USE... wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:19 AM:

" The righties here are 'cruel'; they manifest their cruelty regularly. I don't know who my as usual anonymous 'neighbor' is supposed to be but perhaps the 'Johnny-Tess' beast under yet another assumed name? I never saw the 'original' comment (if it were even posted) but Jimmy's made its angle of viciousness clear. Look: that's PRECISELY what I mean when I say that the mindless ANONYMOUS 'cheerleading' vs 'booing' leads inevitably to intellectual and moral corruption. SO MANY MANY MANY righties here SAY they are 'Christians'; I'd just like to see some 'Christian' charity -- not only that, but I've known intelligent 'educated' Christians and wonder WHY these, here, go continually for the emotional jugular and assiduously avoid civil discussion? 'Change'? Yup -- that's change we can use right now, right here!... "

Bowers to draftfan wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:17 AM:

" I am not complaining about McCain's choice. I love, love love it. Go Obama! "

harsch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 11:03 AM:

" No one seems to have the honesty to connect a 17 year old pregnant daughter with Palin's stance against sex education in schools. And then some fool, I don't remember which there are so many, espouses abstinence--a little late, el Frigido! Besides, even you are probably a mammal. Finally, Jimmy, I didn't know you had a child in a wheelchair, and I don't know why anybody on this blog does (of course, maybe I missed something), but my abiding thought is that these are very desperate times for the soulless peoples that make up the non-monied right wing; they are a confused and very scared lot. That said, I believe you should post whatever it is that MFN posted, so that those on his edge can see perhaps from a little outside where they are or are headed. "

draftfan wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:57 AM:

" Why are we now comparing Sarah Palin's qualifications to Barack Obama's? She is running as the VICE-PRESIDENTIAL candidate. While she does have more executive experience, perhaps it is true that Barack has more political experience. While the McCain pick may be an out of the box reach, I don't think anyone can claim that picking a seemingly more experienced candidate has worked out too well in the past. PS...those who had no intention of voting for McCain in the first place don't get to complain about his VP selection. "

Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 2, 2008 10:06 AM:

" Just perused the Huffington Post web site and, man, there's a lot of stuff coming out: she once belonged to a political party that wanted Alaska to secede from the union; her husband has a DUI arrest; she was nearly recalled as mayor for firing the police chief and librarian because they didn't support her politically; then there's troopergate, for which she is now under investigation; it appears her only qualifications for Vice President are 1)she's old enough and 2)she's a US citizen; Thank you Huffpost. "

Ronnie Gossett wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:54 AM:

" There are a lot of ignorant women who will indeed vote for someone just because she is a woman. Many made that clear during the Hillary campaign. Palin will get not only these womens votes, but also the votes of anyone who look into how she stands on the issues. When I first heard about McCains choice, I thought "how dumb". As I find out more about her, I realize she is a good choice. "

Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:41 AM:

" A question for everyone for my edification. Why didn't he pick Condoleeeza Rice? "

To Jimmy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:36 AM:

" No need to post this as I don't see a need to call further attention to Mikeys neighbors post(although you are obviously welcome to if you choose). I just want to say this: I agree with Mikeys neighbor more than I do with you.... having said that, you have a lot more patience and are more forgiving than I ever would be. I can't believe you would even give this low-life another chance. If it was my blog and he made the comments it seems he did, he would be out of here. I may also add my own "insult to injury" and dress him down like you did(but use his real name and other info). "

Froto wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:27 AM:

" Of course it is a horrible pick, because it is the best pick of all. The Dems are in shock they see a loss in november for them again and are working overtime to try to personnaly assasinate the character of this great pick. Good Luck. Can't wait to see this blog and replies the day after the election. I will tell you I told you so.
PS. they are allready starting with the pregnant daughter, WOW, that's a big deal a pregrant teenager Wooppiiiii who cares she is 17 not 12 like the Mormons. "

To Jimmy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:16 AM:

" I just read your post to Mikey's former Neighbor ... Banning him from blogging isn't good enough. I bet a few of us would kick his posterior for you. I normally hate violence, but some people deserve it. "

To Mikeys former Neighbor from Jimmy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 9:05 AM:

" You listening? If you ever make a disperaging remark about my daughter in a wheelchair again, in this case adding insult to injury with your reference to "drool buckets," YOU WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO POST ON THIS BLOG AGAIN! And it won't matter what name you use; the system generates ISPs, precisely for this reason. Is that clear enough for you? You got it now? "

Keep it up McCain wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:59 AM:

" I love it! I love it!

Not only should women be insulted by this horrifying VP pick, but anyone who cares who the president of this country is. If McCain really wanted to try and pull off the female VP thing, there are plenty of truly experienced and qualified female Republican politicans to choose from. Gotta have that pretty face, though.

There are many points of deep concern with this candidate. Besides the litany you've mentioned, she's under state investigation for abuse of power! Laughable! This entire circumstance should seriously call into question McCain's judgment abilities.

And THANK YOU for calling out these espousers of Palin's "executive experience". Of Alaska! It's got the same population as Milwaukee, folks. I always find it remarkable the nonsense people will come up with to justify toeing the party line. "

Susan Esteritch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:57 AM:

" , who is a hard bitten liberal, just said on Fox News that she believes as much as 30% of Hillary supporters will jump over to the McCain Palin ticket. She said that even though she disagrees with Palins politics, she is disgusted with the way the press and those who support Obama are treating her. She didn't say that she would vote for Palin, but even if her estimate is off by half, a 15% swing of Hillary supporters for Palin McCain will doom Obama. Ignoring this fact or attacking Palin will only help the Republicans. "

JimmyG the anti conservative wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:49 AM:

" Your comments are laughable and very obvious you are liberal democrat. I didn't know you have to be from big population area and be book smart in your mind to be a candidate for white house. Do you know any history at all. Your half truths and false information is classic. Anyone with a clue see's right through your lame statements about his joke 'experience' or her lack of. "

Izzy Fabin wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:49 AM:

" I was getting ready to congratulate and commend you for not getting the requisite cheap shot in about Palins pregnant daughter. But, then I clicked on "continue", and there it was. Disappointing. I even have to give Barack Hussein Obama props for his remarks when asked about the pregnancy. Very classy. I see no issue with the pregnancy unless Palin or McCain have ever condemned unwed mothers or teens that became pregnant. Since they never have(that I am aware of), this is just life. At least she will let her baby live, even though Barack Hussein Obama would allow her to kill her baby if it is born alive. Letting the baby live as opposed to slaughtering it is is in line with the pro-life stance. So, its all good. "

Kevin wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:48 AM:

" Jimmy...for the record. Abstinence is the only 100% proven effective form of birth control. Teaching respect, responsibility and accountability is also effective. However, in todays society it is much easier to throw condoms and birth control pills to the crowds of clamoring youth than teach. One wouldn't want to have to actually have to say 'No' to someone. "

R G wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:44 AM:

" I don't usually comment on these online blogs, but a friend told me about Jimmy's topic today and I had to comment. Obama's past decisions of who he surrounds himself with, his liberal socialist ideas and his slick words with no substance completely turned me off. McCain also hasn't thrilled me with his liberal leanings, BUT by his selection of Sarah Palin, I am energized now to vote FOR someone then just AGAINST Obama. Everything about her (self reliant, hard worker, pro-life, anti-corruption, exercising veto on wasteful spending) is exciting. Finally a Republican who stands for things I believe in. Maybe Palin is just in the 2nd seat, but at least it's a seat. "

Kevin wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:40 AM:

" The Dem women ought to realize that there is more than just one woman in the world that is shattering the proverbial glass ceiling. Sarah Palin seems to one of those women. As for Obama having experience....I wish someone would line item that experience for us to review. Clinton and Biden themselves have called out how many 'present' votes Obama has had. Does he make decisions? Can we find one? What world leader has he stood toe to toe with and negotiated with in any role other than a presidential nominee? "

Kevin wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:31 AM:

" Leave it to Gillman, Harsch and I expect Welch and Smith to join the Palin bashing here soon. Sarah Palin, saw something wrong with the politics of the state of Alaska. She decided to do something about it and worked her way successfully into politics. She lives in Alaska, a very male dominated culture and is not only surviving but has been elected governor. Tell me she can't stand toe to toe with men. And by one or a million she has earned that seat. Dems have always referred to republican politics as 'Politics of Fat Old White Men' never changing. McCain stood you folks on your ears and demonstrated change. The politics of the raging left is never happy. McCains advisor was correct in saying we have become a nation of whiners. "

O yeah wrote on Sep 2, 2008 8:21 AM:

" And if you knew what you were talking about it would be a miracle. Oh yes, I forgot this is a Demcraatic Liberal Rag. "

Lee Bowers wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:55 AM:

" Jimmy, of all your blogs, this is the best. Thank you. "

Yo wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:50 AM:

" Can you say foreign relations experience with Obama? Palin is #2, has dealt with the first line of defense just minutes away from Russia and Canada. Can obama say budget? - How about selling the Gov't vehicles on Ebay and making a profit.(Palin) Can you say Profile in Courage - Obama? Palin took on her own party, lead the charge against corruption vs. Tony Rezko, The weather underground, etc. The real problem: Republicans traditionally don't advertise enough their own accomplishments, they're just happy to have done them. "

happymom wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:24 AM:

" Good thing for Obama that his eighteen year old mom chose to let him live. I don't know why it's assumed that McCain chose Palin to garner Hillary's chicks' votes. Palin is the antithesis of what Hillary's babe voters would want! Palin revvs up the conservative women like myself who believe that Palin is the perfect illustration of true feminism at home in the political arena. It's insulting to us conseravtive women to suggest that we couldn't at the same time time bake a batch of cookies and also blow the head off a terrorist in the same day. "

The Real Macoy wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:47 AM:

" I love Sarah Palin the more I learn about her.

Big difference between Palin and Obama.....

Obama: If they (his daughters) make a mistake, I dont want them punished with a baby.

Palin: Supports her daughter decision to marry the father and raise the child which see obviously sees as a blessing and not a punishment. "

So Gillman wrote on Sep 2, 2008 5:18 AM:

" "It also demands that women, and Hillary Clinton supporters in particular, rebel against the choice of Palin by showing they are not so simple minded as to vote for a person of such radically conservative views based solely on gender." Geez, you wouldn't be trying to tell women voters how to vote, would you? Thinking women are smart enough to not be influenced by your blatant tactics. The ones not smart enough were going to vote your way anyway. "

harsch wrote on Sep 2, 2008 4:29 AM:

" This blog will likely continue to be inanely partisan, but elsewhere I've been reading that Republican women are deeply angry, and indeed insulted by this choice. Even Republican women want their children to remain 'unpregnant', and they tend to, if identifying themselves as Republican, be on the average smarter than 'political' men--they are angry for a variety of reasons, ranging from the insult that a man like McCain is trying to manipulate them to the simple fact that such a beast was chosen and they now will lose. Many have also expressed anger that their despised Hillary garnered such praise for not being chosen. "

In a nut shell wrote on Sep 2, 2008 4:18 AM:

" Obama-Biden: for killing babies and raising taxes.

McCain-Palin: for raising babies and killing taxes.

Obama: no executive experience, spent his senator time campaigning for president, rode on the back of the crooked Chicago Democrat machine, at best has a 50% approval rating, and hangs out with admitted terrorists

Palin: Years of executive experience, spent her time as Governor dealing with Russia, Canada, and big oil, fought corruption in the Alaskan Republican party, enjoys an 80% approval rating, and her own son volunteered for the Army.

Palin for VP is more qualified then Obama as the President of America. "

Big Spender wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:32 AM:

" From the article:

"John McCain doesnt even know Palin, met her only once!"

Say what??? Come again??? Could you repeat that???

Is this the kind of snap decision we'll come to expect from a President McCain?

Employers ask that applicants to even a lowly $25K/yr. lab technician job have a four-year degree, advanced scientific training, and these days, they want five years of experience. Now there'll be janitors lining up for the Republican veep slot next time it's open.

As we learned with GWB, the presidency is no place for the average person. The price for such folly is too high. The future of hundreds of millions cannot be turned over to the whims of amateurs. "


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