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 Samantha Marcus: City Hall

Published - Tuesday, October 14, 2008

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Here's the vote, by popular demand

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Oct. 10, 2008 — The La Crosse Common Council voted 10-5 yesterday to reverse a decision to charge a hotel developer for costs arising from the planned condemnation of a "nuisance" billboard.

Council members George Italiano, Jai Johnson, Jacie Gamroth, Dorothy Lenard, Doug Farmer, Audrey Kader, Lorraine Decker, Tom Sweeney, Marilyn Wigdahl and Dick Swantz voted in favor of the city paying the bill.

Council members Andrea Richmond, Jim Bloedorn, Richard Becker, Bruce Ranis and Bernie Maney voted in favor of the developer picking up the tab.

Council member Bill Harnden abstained, citing a conflict of interest.

On the final vote, which approved development agreement with NSD Hotel Associates as amended (meaning with the city paying for attorney's fees), the council voted 14-2. Only Becker and Maney voted no.

Lost? The votes apply to the story below:

The La Crosse Common Council on Thursday recommitted itself to condemning a Copeland Avenue billboard considered an impediment to building an extended stay hotel.

The hotel’s future was in doubt in the wake of a council decision to charge the developer, NSD Hotel Associates, for any attorney’s fees resulting from the condemnation and subsequent lawsuits.

NSD attorney Phil Addis said his clients would drop its plans for the 92-room extended stay hotel just north of Three Rivers Plaza if the council didn’t reverse its decision.

“If the amendment stays in the contract, we’re not signing the contract,” Addis told the council. “If you adopt the amendment, we’re not building.”

Having the developer foot the bill would undermine the city’s position the condemnation was for a public purpose, not private.

“The amendment we adopted creates the impression for possibility of a private condemnation as opposed to a public condemnation, and a private condemnation would be a violation of state law,” council member Doug Farmer said.

Collins Outdoor Advertising, which owns the billboard, has called the declared public purpose — to provide marsh access — superficial, meant only to prop up the condemnation in court.

Collins representative Keith Carson also acknowledged his company helped draft the measure that states the developer would bear the condemnation expenses.

Collins has vowed to fight the condemnation in court.

“Do you honestly believe an amendment drafted by Collins Sign is designed to help you win your case?” Addis asked the council.

A number of council members and the developer also objected to the way the amendment was passed, summarily and without any input from the developer.

“It was done in the dead of night and it was bad public policy and it shouldn’t have been done,” Farmer said.
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Nestor wrote on Oct 20, 2008 1:27 PM:

" Posted by 2nd part missed my first part????
Here goes again-
-Neighborhood Meeting
District One and Two
Roosevelt School
6:00 PM
10/22/08

This will be the FIRST Pro 'No City Ambulance Business' Resident Informational Meetings held in Lacrosse. Different professionals, with different opinions, numbers, and alternative views. "

Nestor wrote on Oct 20, 2008 12:40 PM:

" Lest we not forget this is one of the meetings in town run and called by Richmond for a Neighborhood Organization. That our City Leaders have told Richmond that it would take over a year to formalize this Organization?
Also, I have already heard Chief Cleveland has been poking around attempting to infuse Fire Personnel in to the docket and order of business at this meeting. I am here to tell you this Chief, "It ain't gonna happen'. Unless you live in District One or Two, or you have been 'identified' by the Podium and then you might have two minutes. "

Nestor wrote on Oct 19, 2008 12:38 PM:

" Ms. Rose Decker-
Thank you for your post. I had hoped to speak to you anyway, or our 'friend' about this. Did not make sense to me. Glad to read this, but someimtes an abstension is as damaging as a vote? This is a terrrible outlay for taxpayer money, especially in present financial times. Right or wrong the sign was there. I guess it all did or does come down to 'Planning'? Mr. Kirch? "

Lorraine Rose Decker wrote on Oct 18, 2008 1:50 PM:

" Dear Samantha and readers:

Thank you for taking an interest in the City Hall proceedings. It is important that all voters do this.

Please note that I abstained on the above issue.


Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Lorraine Rose Decker "

Nestor wrote on Oct 15, 2008 4:09 PM:

" 'Leveraged to the hilt', a good term. Economy tanks, and that's when it happens. "

OldRetiredGuy wrote on Oct 15, 2008 8:19 AM:

" I think the this whole thing stinks and am willing to contribute $ to Collins Signs to fight this condemmation by the City. What a way to treat a local business. Shame on you City of La Crosse "

Nestor wrote on Oct 14, 2008 12:49 PM:

" I could have read off the 9 votes the minute I was awoken from a deep sleep. Give me a break!!!! "

Nestor wrote on Oct 13, 2008 5:58 PM:

" Hey has anyone ever listed how many of 'these' people have government retirement packages? You will, very soon. Although that will do little in this town, 'we' are outnumbered, badly. "

Nestor wrote on Oct 13, 2008 5:58 PM:

" "George Italiano, Jai Johnson, Jacie Gamroth, Dorothy Lenard, Doug Farmer, Audrey Kader, Lorraine Decker, Tom Sweeney, Marilyn Wigdahl and Dick Swantz." I want you all to know I sit up in bed screaming with those names dancing in front of my closed eyes. Two promises, I will still produce and distribute a City Council voting record flow chart. OH BTW, Wigdahl is on a WRS Board. They will almost assuredly be coming at us with their hand out in a very big way. Oh what the heck, just add it the list! One other thing the WRS retirement amounts for government employees do not delcine depending on the fund is doing. So you out there that work for living, get over it! "

Nestor wrote on Oct 13, 2008 5:50 PM:

" This is your City. Those in power belong to a club. With criss/crossing, overlapping Members on Boards, and Committees, or recipinets all too often of Rehab, and TIF money themselves. One could say they should make those decisions as they are the smartest amongst us. Others could say they are not that smart but chose the other road when given the choice for a future self serving reason and financial betterment. One thing is for sure, you are slated to pay for it ALL! "


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