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 Jimmy Gillman

Published - Wednesday, October 22, 2008

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The party of Ronald Reagan is once again the party of Richard Nixon

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This longer than ever primary and campaign season has brought with it the usual lies, distortions, fear-mongering and prejudice I’ve seen before. But in my 40 years of watching elections I have never witnessed the outpouring of intolerance, spurious suspicion and outright hatred of a kind now on display, with most of the really nasty stuff coming from McCain supporters and right-wing Republicans.

The optimistic, don’t-make-it-personal-mantra of Ronald Reagan has returned to the anger, suspicion and resentment of Richard Nixon. Illusions to the “real America” and “real Americans,” questions of patriotism, religious faith and national origin, over-the-top attempts at linkage. It’s all there, drawn straight from the divisive political playbook of Richard Nixon; the same tactics, only now, if you can believe it, with an even nastier and more personal edge, and positively drenched in fear.

That fear and suspicion reached a crest last Friday when first-term Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota launched a jaw-dropping oration that not only accused Barack Obama of being anti-American, but one in which the loony-toon legislator called for a Joe McCarthy-like investigation of congress to determine, as she said “who is pro-America and who is anti-America.” Perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised at this kind of vile vitriol considering the angry sentiments McCain and Palin have been firing incessantly from their campaign canons for weeks now.

Some have called for the congresswoman to be censured. Don’t bother Minnesota; send this hazardous hack back to Stillwater by electing her opponent. Nothing less can redeem the good names of those who elected her.

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BASHING OF COLIN POWELL IS SHAMEFUL

The racist, hate-filled world of Rush Limbaugh just got a little smaller when he accused former Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State Colin Powell of endorsing Barack Obama simply because both men are of color. Like fellow hate-spewer Sean Hannity, these guys (and others) simply cannot accept Powell’s laundry list of reasons why he selected Obama, choosing instead to descend to the lowest common denominator with claims of black-racism (and worse). These demagogues simply cannot accept the fact that you can support the other side and still be a loyal citizen. Well, there’s not a damned thing patriotic about the rhetoric of these malevolent merchants of malice! They’re the ones who sound like they hate America.

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Bowers wrote on Oct 29, 2008 11:25 AM:

" Hang in there, Ronnie, and don't forget to vote on November 5th. "

Ronnie Gosset wrote on Oct 29, 2008 9:34 AM:

" Alright, you guys take care now. "

Bowers wrote on Oct 29, 2008 8:56 AM:

" Ronnie, both Harsch and myself are former executives at AIG; we've got tons of money. Don't worry about us. Life is sweet. "

Ronnie Gosset wrote on Oct 29, 2008 8:47 AM:

" Glad I could provide some enjoyment for you guys. Out of curiosity, what was the wager? I know neither of you have 25K in disposable income. "

harsch...however wrote on Oct 29, 2008 6:14 AM:

" You've got to admit that his last post is his funniest. I love subtle humor. Here's the answer: no. I must have laughed for a good ten minutes. "

Harsch to Uncle Lee re ronnie wrote on Oct 29, 2008 6:12 AM:

" I must have been drunk when we made the drinking bet because I don't remember it. But isn't it hilarious that this fake guy continues to post even after we have clealy shown he is not real? "

Ronnie Gosset wrote on Oct 28, 2008 4:00 PM:

" Okay, guys, I know you have been waiting with baited breath. Here is my answer: No. "

Bowers wrote on Oct 28, 2008 2:30 PM:

" Ronnie, I think you're sincere in your parodies. "

Ronnie Gosset wrote on Oct 28, 2008 1:17 PM:

" What do you guys make of some of my posts below, as far as whether they are evidence of sincerity or parody? "

Bowers wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:45 AM:

" Ronnie, stay out of it; this doesn't concern you; just our perceptions of you; we wouldn't trust what you say anyway. "

Bowers wrote on Oct 28, 2008 9:43 AM:

" Harsch, of course, I won the wager. Never never bet against Lee Bowers. But let me refresh your memory. Not only do you owe me $25,000, but there's also that little side bet where I wagered Welch's vehicle against your promise to remain abstinent from alcohol for a year. No more blood of the Croat for you, nephew. "

Ronnie on the wager... wrote on Oct 28, 2008 8:53 AM:

" Am I to understand tha the wager is that Bowers thinks I am satirizing and Harsch thinks(thought?) I am sincere? Before anyone pays up, do you want me to weigh in? "

Dear Uncle Lee..from Rick Harsch to you othern wrote on Oct 27, 2008 3:50 PM:

" As of 8:55 our private bet may become public and, yes, you win again. That post proves that Ronnie is a satirical moniker/poster. I've been arguing with one of my own kind. I feel like a...donkey. But rest assured, I sent the check today, for as you know I always pay off on my bad bets. As you wrote to me privately, your tip off was his eagerness to argue anything but my points, which he only characterized. Yet I continue to stand by my point that such ignorance, though in this case well-parodied, is endemic to the right as represented on this blog. So you are right in this case, but I hope you agree that I remain right in principle. If not, let's open it up to the folks here... "

Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 27, 2008 2:25 PM:

" Ronnie, why do you hate America? "

Ronnie to Michael wrote on Oct 27, 2008 8:55 AM:

" AE's remarks dont resonate with me, and neither do Big Spenders. I gotta think they are either both Parody's, or both legit(maybe even the same poster making fun of BOTH extremes?). Anyway, I still dont see how you can think SEA is trolling BS when it is BS' comments that are obviously MORE outrageous of the 2.... "

Michael Welch Get With It -- Get Out Of First Gear Already... wrote on Oct 25, 2008 1:59 PM:

" 'Angry Ernie' IS a parody -- if he seems all too 'real' to you, you may well ask yourself WHAT there is about extreme right wing views that resonates with the ol' 'Ern': THAT's his point after all; he's sucker baiting. 'SE Atheist' IS trolling 'Big Spender'; you MUST be naive if you can't see that. Since 'Big's unbridled atheism is such a hot button here the harassment particularly delights the so called 'Christians' but it's pure harassment, unimpressive and again boringly repetitive -- the usual right wing crapola under a thin 'guise' so to fool either the inherently dopey or deliberately 'naive.' 'Spender' seems on to him and generally ignores him and for good reason... "

To Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 25, 2008 7:58 AM:

" Like I said, you would fit in perfectly with the Nazi Party. Are you related to Rush Limbaugh? "

to three fifty six wrote on Oct 24, 2008 4:53 PM:

" Never heard of this? Are you sure you didnt just dream it? "

Republican tricks wrote on Oct 24, 2008 3:56 PM:

" I see the McCain campaign worker fabricated the whole story about being attacked by a black man. Typical racist Republican behavior. This one is gonna backfire on McCain. His campaign probably orchestrated the whole thing because they are so desperate to win. Playing to the racist fears of the radical right wackos. "

Ronnie to Michael wrote on Oct 24, 2008 3:37 PM:

" I see your point, but I still disagree with you regarding Southeast Atheist. There is no way his posts come even close to the outrageousness of Big Spenders. Now, if you were to assert Big Spender is the one pretending in order to run down SEA, I may be persuaded.... "

Cagefighter wrote on Oct 24, 2008 2:00 PM:

" Leave me out of it guys. I posted a couple days ago. thats it. "

Michael Welch Truth Is God... wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:59 PM:

" No it's best to let these commenters know that we understand their 'games' rather than encourage bogus argument. The BEST thing to do is to CLEARLY identify yourself so that if you are parodying we understand that from your previous 'history.' I don't approve of 'gaming the blog' so that no one knows what's real and what's not -- then everything becomes junk commenting, essentially meaningless, something for bored nasty teeners in the basement passing time until the 'Star Trek' reruns come on. Write what YOU REALLY BELIEVE and stop the pretense. And you have to be a dope NOT to get what 'SE Atheist' is trying to do re: 'Big Spender' -- i. e. PRETEND he's a fellow atheist and run 'Big' down from 'Spender's 'own side' so to speak. We don't HAVE to act naive on this blog do we?... "

Ronnie to anonymous wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:43 PM:

" My post was in response to Michael, who guessed that AE may be a parody. I stated that while I dont agree with Ernies ideas on how to solve the worlds problems, he seems sincere. I also believe ACLU and Southeast Atheist are sincere, although I certainly dont agree with them. I believe the best we can do is answer the posts with the information we have, not trying to second-guess the posters intentions. "

To Ronnie aka Cagefighter wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:34 PM:

" Sincere? I'm sure he is sincere, that's what scares me; the fascists were sincere as well. Your logic is twisted if you think the vile of Angry Ernie is legitimate, sincere or otherwise; calls for purges and yellow triangles and all the rest; anti-Muslim slams and all the rest. Man, you guys are terrible. "

To Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:29 PM:

" I'm sure Richard Nixon will be waiting for you down there. And you wonder why many people don't take Christians seriously. "

Ronnie to Michael wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:27 PM:

" Angry Ernie seems sincere, if not a little misguided. He has the right "idea", he is just soooo ANGRY(hence his moniker?) at people who dont grasp what he feels they should grasp. He would do well to understand that some people are blind, as opposed to willfully supporting evil. As far as Southeast Atheist, there is no way he is a parody. His views are much more "tame" and "centered" than, say, Big Spender. I would entertain the idea that Big Spender is satirical and a parody, but he does SEEM as sincere as an Angry Ernie. "

Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:25 PM:

" I assume Jesus will see to it that all the America-haters will end up in hell. I mean how can one hate America and be a Christian? "

To Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:01 PM:

" I'm inferring you are a Christian. If so, I'm sure Jesus would think very highly of your call to make people you deem unpatriotic wear yellow triangles. I'm sure he'd be proud of you for being so tolerant. "

Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 12:12 PM:

" Mislead? Mislead? Oh please, how could anyone be mislead. The Republican ticket is the finest the party has put forward in the last 100 years. McCain is a true leader, a man in command, who wants to restore patriotism to a besotted populace. And Sarah...well, I can't say enough good things about this remarkable person, who has revived the Alaskan economy all by herself. A true Christian ever there ever was. Anyone who truly loves this country will be voting McCain/Palin. "

Michael Welch Them Versus US... wrote on Oct 24, 2008 11:54 AM:

" I've always thought 'Angry Ernie' was a parody here, like 'ACLU' and 'Southeast Atheist' are parodies designed to take someone's 'liberal' opinions to an absurd extreme and then claim they are only presenting 'truth.' 'AE' it looked to me was 'bait' for the righties, an extreme rendition (pardon the association) of THEIR views. And then of course it happens, which never occurs with 'ACLU' and 'SEA' -- someone takes the bait and even underscores 'Ernie's anger. Yes the election of Obama WILL increase the hatred and virulence evinced on Jimmy's blog; it already has as the reality of what will happen on Nov 4 is sinking in. They will more and more insist this is 'THEIR America' (a la Palin, their heroine) and therefore it can NEVER be 'ours'... "

To Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 11:16 AM:

" He probably doesnt hate America. He is just being mislead. "

BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 24, 2008 11:16 AM:

" Dear "angry ernie"... Good point on the Halliburton prison camps they built down in the deep red South. I'm sure Homeland Security has a hotline for you to call and turn in your america-hating neighbor. They're sneaky as you noted. Some even join the military and die in foreign lands to keep the cover going. "

Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 7:32 AM:

" I've had a neighbor the past 7 years. I thought he was a nice guy. Hard worker, family man, goes to church every Sunday, nice kids...but yesterday I looked out my picture window and there was an Obama yard sign on his front lawn. I then realized he hates America. "

Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 7:29 AM:

" Here's what we do. There's all these camps located here in the good old USA. They were built by good old Halliburton and paid for by the government. And they're empty. I say we round up the false Americans, put em in the camps, and teach em how to be real Americans. Once that's done, we let em out for the betterment of all. "

to angry ernie wrote on Oct 24, 2008 1:27 AM:

" it's easy to identify them. just set up a meeting to protest george w. bush and state that there will be a flag burning at the end of the meeting. then sit and watch whoever shows up. "

To Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 23, 2008 8:47 PM:

" Sounds like you would have fit in perfectly with the Nazi Party. "

Carnival Freak from Murder Creek wrote on Oct 23, 2008 2:36 PM:

" Angry Ernie, my friend, that is not necessary. We can tell who they are by the tripe they post here. "

Angry Ernie wrote on Oct 23, 2008 1:42 PM:

" Thank you so much Carnival Freak. I think it would be a good idea if we could somehow identify the false Americans living in this country from the real Americans. How's bout if that traitorious crowd had to wear a yellow triangle on their clothing? "

Vote for Obama or else wrote on Oct 23, 2008 1:22 PM:

" You're a racist and ACORN will riot. Got it, haters? "

harsch wrote on Oct 23, 2008 1:09 PM:

" I await a thoughtful response. "

Carnival Freak from Murder Creek wrote on Oct 23, 2008 1:05 PM:

" In answer to your question, senor Harsch--Yes, we are the real Americans--not you. If you dont like it here, leave. Oh, wait, you already did. So what do you and your students have to gripe about? Other than being homeless? "

Lee Bowers wrote on Oct 23, 2008 1:00 PM:

" I am no big fan of Obama, but when you compare him to McCain...well, all I can say is, "Go Obama." Save us from Grumpy and Chattie Cathy. "

Typical liberals wrote on Oct 23, 2008 11:49 AM:

" Jimmy you and your followers sing the same old tune every day, Republicans are racists and haters. When you libs have nothing of substance to say, so you resort to childish name calling. It's getting old. And lay off the kool-aid or esctasy or whatever it is you people take that makes you so euphoric over Obama. Look at his experience and record and you'll find nothing that sets him above the rest. He's a great speaker, take that away and how does he compare to other senators? Ask yourselves that people, how is he better than the rest? And don't accuse me of hating Obama, nothing I have said is hateful. "

Michael Welch Macs Palin Problem... wrote on Oct 23, 2008 11:47 AM:

" The Democrats of course continuously link McCain with George W, which has its logic surely because Mac HAS supported the admin on MOST issues -- he's even reversed himself on the Bush tax cut formuli when he was originally the ONLY Repub senator to oppose them. But I don't think 'Mac = Bush' no matter the convenience and apparent effectiveness of that slogan. McCain might well be even a BETTER president if elected than he is campaigning as -- i. e. I believe he is genuinely 'more liberal' than he presents himself. Palin however has created her latest identity as a self proclaimed 'redneck woman,' i. e. as a right wing populist and Palin's proximity to the presidency IS alarming. There's some 'George Wallace' in her after all I see... "

Michael Welch The Gore Presidency... wrote on Oct 23, 2008 11:37 AM:

" The United States has always had a problematic democracy; one would say that when the New England Federalists met to consider seceding from the union over 'Mr Madison's war' (of 1812) that was pretty serious and some ugly words about President Madison MAY have been uttered hmm. People 'hate' certain political leaders who stand for ideas and causes they fear or resent; Obama symbolizes a 'return' or supposed return of the triumphalist liberalism of the 1950s and '60s and his opponents 'fear' some nouveau 'Great Society.' And while many Obama backers may HOPE for that, what is REALLY likely is a 'Gore presidency,' i. e. something 'Clintonesque' sans Clinton. (If Powell is going to be in on it, it ain't a-gonna be 'socialism' I can tell ya...) "

WSO wrote on Oct 23, 2008 11:03 AM:

" Just a thought about McCain not being able to use a computer... Has Bark Obama ever landed a fighter on a carrier , at night ? Or can he even get in the cockpit of one without blowing the seat. "

Jeff wrote on Oct 23, 2008 10:53 AM:

" Now that the media have done their job to show Obama in the most positive light while skewering McCain/Palin, the shepherd himself will likely soon get the keys to the White house, and all you sheep can watch him and the 10% approved Congress run things. The media (Democrat propoganda machine) will continue the lovefest and there's always Bush to blame for any failures. "

harsch wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:54 AM:

" Again: are you real Americans?
Indefinite detention at Guantanamo and suspension of Habeus Corpus. (Widely known that many confined there were simply bought from those who captured them--recently 17 Chinese were released after seven years or so, totally innocent.
Flights called extraordinary rendition.
Chagos Islanders.
Lies deliberately told to the U.N., the American people, in order to carry out the Bush Doctrine (will you accept a pre-emptive strike on the U.S.?).
Domestic spying.
Detention of dissidents at airports.
You who support these policies: are you the real, the patriotic, Americans? "

To Froto wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:22 AM:

" You just don't get it; it's not the quantity but the content, and the negative content in the McCain/Palin attacks is way over the top. And stop asserting this so-called equivalency with these so-called attacks on Palin; that's baloney compared to the vicious attacks on Obama. "

Froto wrote on Oct 23, 2008 9:09 AM:

" Ref: :Project of Escellence in Journalism" Just released. 57% negative againts McCain; vs. 29% negative againts Obama. "

Froto wrote on Oct 23, 2008 8:56 AM:

" I do not know what you have been watching but you must be on something Jimmy. The latest fully independent study on this shows that Obama and his campaign are by far the dirtiest and the most mud slinging ever in the history of this country. You obviously have not listened to all the stuff put out on Palin. I hope Obama does get in and then you will (Perhaps, unless your in on everything) finally feel the pains of socialism. By the way for those of you intelligent enough to have read and understood World History, Obama will make Chaimberlin look like a War Monger. "

Southeast Atheist to Big Spender wrote on Oct 23, 2008 8:17 AM:

" Come on, you and me, we're the same! How can you say that Obama being delusional is simply "not agreeing with him on every issue"? That is ridiculous and you know it. Admit the disconnect between what you spout on the boards and how you live your life, and what you do at the voting booth. Most people would never vote for someone they seriously think is delusional. Disagree with on certain issues? Sure. But delusional? No way. Just further evidence you live in your own little make-believe world. "

Bowers to Cranium wrote on Oct 23, 2008 7:18 AM:

" Eloquent postings. Thank you. "

Bowers to Timmy wrote on Oct 23, 2008 7:15 AM:

" Dude, Reagan asked for Haig to step aside. He didn't resign in protest over something. Get your facts straight. "

To Yo wrote on Oct 23, 2008 7:10 AM:

" So McCain is too busy and that's why he doesn't know how to use a computer? Your right. The right didn't say that, he did. Just like he said he doesn't know much about the economy. Yet, he believes he has the answers to fix it. If his solutions to fixing the economy are so great, why wait until he's elected to implement them? And I guess according to you the way Bush has spread the wealth we are already under communism. AND, if you don't believe your first sentence you are one of the most out of touch people on this planet. All you have to do is read a paper, listen to the news, watch the news, talk to people to hear it. Maybe get your facts from someone other than Limbaugh next time eh? "

Dear Kizarny wrote on Oct 23, 2008 6:30 AM:

" I have never expressed hope for a "black president" nor support for affirmative action. I ask that you do not use me when creating your fictitious argument. I want a smart, visionary, understanding, level-headed and curious President. That's all. Like Steven Colbert I don't see race or color.....it's a blessing or result of my army brat upbringing and having decent, open minded solid Christian-value parents. And I have to say it appears the majority of this great Nation has also progressed past judgements based on race or color. You're more than welcome to join us as we move ahead....- BrianGSmith "

Yo wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:19 PM:

" It was Obama who said...they will say he's Black, he has a funny name, he is a muslim. It was Barak who said...McCain is out of touch. It was the lefties who said...McCain doesn't know how to use a computer! In fact:The right never said any of those things, McCain believes in Capitalism vs. spreading the wealth(communism), and McCain is on a Technology Committee and can't use a computer because he was fighting for our freedoms. Just a few facts that Jimbo left out of this story that I thought you should know. "

Now wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:06 PM:

" Palin is saying that the election is in God's hands. So, do they blame God then if they lose? "

Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:28 PM:

" Mac and Cheese (John and Sarah) have been talking about some place called "Real America", those small towns where "Real Americans" live. So who are these "Real Americans" that McCain/Palin are talking about? Real Americans are the people who saw 40% of their retirement savings vanish in the stock market this month because of deregulation. "Real Americans" are the ones paying 10 billion a month to support the war in Iraq. "Real Americans" are the ones who are going to have to pay off the 11 trillion dollar national debt. "Real Americans" are tired of being called Socialists and terrorists by McCain and Palin. And us "Real Americans" are going to the polls to take back our country by voting out the people who got "Real Americans" into the mess it's in today. "

Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:19 PM:

" John McCain told a crowd to "hold on to your wallet" because Barack Obama has talked of spreading the wealth around. McCain suggested voters could not rely on Obama's promise of tax cuts while returning once more to the story of Joe the Plumber, a regular part of McCain's speeches since he first mentioned the tax concerns of Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher in last Wednesday's presidential debate. Bush the Impaler borrowed $5 trillion dollars from the Saudis and the Chinese to give tax breaks to the super-rich and the oil companies and Grumpy thinks raising taxes on the rich will hurt some plumber wannabe in Pennsylvania? That's stupid - even for McCain. "

Kevin wrote on Oct 22, 2008 6:31 PM:

" Seems this fellow has problems with everything that is brought up against him....What is going to happen if per chance he does get elected? Is he going to tell all the other world leaders what they can and can't say? Which names they should use to address him? Perhaps the reason GW did not do as well as he could is because Senators like Barack considered him to be as he explained to McCain in debate: Your president! Perhaps if he had considered him his president, then he could have been the across the aisle type senator he claimse to be! "

Kevin wrote on Oct 22, 2008 6:28 PM:

" Jimmy, Harsch, Welch & others....this election is filled with no more hatred than any others I have witnessed, particularly since the MoveOn group started their lobbying, protesting and whining. I believe if you look back you will find many of the far left MoveOn folks, many of the high profile hollywood types etc...calling for all manner of hateful things. "

Big Spender wrote on Oct 22, 2008 5:07 PM:

" To SE Superstitionist, re: "you find BHO delusional, yet you voted for him to run our country?"

I voted against the hateful race-baiting Republicans, not 'for' anyone this time around...isn't that obvious? When did I say I agreed with Obama on every issue? Who gets to vote for a candidate that they are in full agreement with? Why are you deliberately being so disingenuous today?

And, are you sure you want McCain after today's 500-point Dow plunge?

McCain said ... "The issue of economics is something that I've really never understood as well as I should. I understand the basics, the fundamentals, the vision, all that kind of stuff,'' he said. "But I would like to have someone I'm close to that really is a good strong economist. As long as Alan Greenspan is around I would certainly use him for advice and counsel." "

Southeast Atheist to Big Spender wrote on Oct 22, 2008 4:40 PM:

" But, you stated before you find BHO delusional, yet you voted for him to run our country? Why, BS, Why? Also, I see a disconnect between your post in the story about a woman defending her home against a vandal(you said she should be commended), and your vote for BHO, who wanted to make her type of behavior(defending yourself and your home) a crime, and prosecute people for it. What gives? Are you getting "delusional" on me? Am I now a one man crusade? "

Big Spender wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:53 PM:

" Excellent comments, Jimmy...this rabid Reichwing Republican venom is why I voted early for Obama instead of Nader, to whom I'm more ideologically aligned. The "I don't trust Obama, he's an Arab" remark at a McCain rally cinched it for me: I'm working hard to see that these Republican Brownshirts are relegated to the political sidelines where they belong! "

Harlan wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:32 PM:

" Would Powell have endorsed Hillary or John Edwards? Face it. It was about race. Even Juan Williams on Fox,a black liberal said so. Anyone with a brain knows it was mostly about race. Guess that leaves you out. "

Jeff to Bowers wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:31 PM:

" Get your facts straight, Haig resigned in 1982 "

To Harsch wrote on Oct 22, 2008 3:04 PM:

" Thats fine-we dont want or need your respect. I suppose if one of our candidates got so drunk his wife had to have a friend lug him home, then we would be worthy? "

Ronnie Gosset to Harsch wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:49 PM:

" Ah, the brilliant tactic of accusing those who disagree with you of being hate-filled, brainwashed, and unthinking. Looks like Kizarny may be right about you(I am taking a chance, though, using a variation of my name). How about taking a shot at addressing the actual points made? You know, like Welch(specified him to show I am open to actual arguements, even though I may disagree) and others at least try to do? "

PHIL OSIFER wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:44 PM:

" KHAN: Re education, Hitler tried that it ws called Concentration Camps, Stalin tried it they were called Gulags. What do you suggest Obama call them. Not a good choice of words. The German Nazi's tried to teach the Jews a lesson, Russian Stalinists tried to teach the disidants a lesson and the rest of the world learn just what Socialist Facist,Marxist Governments were do we want this now here? "

harsch...fragments of truths wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:35 PM:

" take one example: indefinite detention at guantanamo. this alone undermines all the civic ideals of the u.s. we are taught as children. it is no secret and yet the outcry is limited. if Clinton did such I would have been as appalled. the rendition flights, the lies to enter the war, the domestic spying, the targeting of dissenters, the indiscriminate slaughter of children and other civilians. this is all true, this is all anti-the-America-I-was-told-I-was-being-raised-in.
Only brainwashed people can ignore such facts.
As for me, I am certainly pro-America, especially South, anti-U.S.A., and doubt any of your two candidates can retrieve the standing of your degraded nation to where it would be worthy of my respect or support. "

Bowers to Timmy wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:29 PM:

" Alexander Haig? I don't remember him resigning over anything. Get your facts right. "

PHIL OSIFER wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:14 PM:

" Jimmy: you hate Geo.Bush and anyone connected with him Rush did not say or use the work "racist" he said the choice of Obama by Powell was based on race one black man to nother. This goes for many other unthinking,sheep in the black community. This is the year that Jurnalism has died in America,with the Courics,Brokaw, etc, etc, creating news not reporting news. A sad day is coming when America itself dies "

khan wrote on Oct 22, 2008 2:07 PM:

" I half to agree with harsh on the thinking of the right wing Americans. These poeple can not be reasoned with. i hope that after Obama gets elected that these people will be taught a lesson. they seriously need some re-education on what truth is! "

Timmy wrote on Oct 22, 2008 1:24 PM:

" I don't care if Powell endorses Obama, but Powell's timing raises serious questions. First, if Powell objected to Bush's decision to enter Iraq, why didn't Powell resign his post as Sec. of State in 2002/03? If he were as principled as he claims, he would have done exactly that and not wait until Jan. '05. Remember Alexander Haig? Next, why did Powell wait until aprox. 2 wks before the election to announce his endorsement of Obama? Powell's timing smacks of political expedience and popularity preservation among the hoi polloi rooting for the Pied Piper of politics - Barack Obama. "

Harlan wrote on Oct 22, 2008 1:07 PM:

" But Jimmy. I'm sure you advocate electing pornogropher,tax cheat and the VERY anti-Catholic Al Franken to the US Senate. Besides,liberals are not as patriotic,just go through more liberal areas and look for american flags. "

y1der wrote on Oct 22, 2008 12:32 PM:

" Colin Powell is a former general, people don't become generals by being mavericks. If Powell really wanted to make a statement he would have endorsed Obama a long time ago not now when the writing is on the wall. I have alot less respect for Powell because when given opportunities to standup he has being a coward. I've never respected Rush Limburgh but I guess he is only voting for McCain because he is white. "

Lee Bowers wrote on Oct 22, 2008 12:01 PM:

" Governor Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business. Reminds me of Richard "I'm not a Crook" Nixon. "

Michael Welch Obama Versus Palin In 2012... wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:45 AM:

" An interesting aspect of the Mac campaign not mentioned yet is the curious peeling off of pop con superstar Palin who has been doing some interesting 'distancing' from the Incredible Shrinking Mac. She's expressing differences with McCain on 'social issues' and criticizing him for a certain ineptitude in his campaigning and he sure doesn't spotlight her the way he used to. She's out pandering to that 'there is the REAL America' crowd re: Barry Goldwater, i. e. let's 'saw off the eastern seaboard' and no doubt now the western one also. Is Sarah positioning herself as the 'titular head' of the party and 2012 candydandydate? I think so... "

harsch wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:43 AM:

" Kisarsee, is he?, cagefarter...these are the hate-filled, brainwashed who will forever remain in the unthinking dark of right wing America while the sane Republicans wince or flee outright to the safe side (Obama's). So they won't get Jimmy's column. Powell likely told the truth on television as far as it goes, and surely is ashamed of himself and would like to be viewed as (again?) being on the better side. "

Michael Welch President Franklin D Roosevelt Jones... wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:36 AM:

" McCain didn't have to paint himself in blackface to get my vote; his recent disgraceful pandering to the 'socialist' phobic (UNLESS it is 'socialism' for bankers, investment firms and WALL STREET of course!) is 'enough' for me to take the hint -- he didn't even want that vote. Obama's hanging out with Buffett, Volcker and now Powell(!) also underscores my understanding that I haven't voted for even an 'ultra liberal' but -- sigh! -- for merely a 'mainstream' one. I admit that Sidney Poitier for prez -- 'They call me MISTER PRESIDENT!' -- IS refreshing and bracing and the O is such a smooth clean cut uh 47 year old 'kid' but then as Al Sharpton once observed, rather SHARPly and wistfully I thought, he (Al) also takes 'a bath every day'... "

Michael Welch Didja Ever See A Dream Walking Well I Did --... wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:24 AM:

" I'm not a 'liberal'; Harsch isn't either; neither is 'Bowers'; I think Brian Smith is. Smith is far more enthused about Obama than I am -- Harsch and 'Bowers' seem MORE enthused than I am -- but I CAN'T conscienciously support the imperium in the McCain vein. Further it simply is NOT 'anti-American' to oppose the policies of one's government; next year the accusers here will be blasting PRESIDENT Obama and therefore become as 'anti-American' by definition as those they accuse. Even opposing American wars is NOT 'anti-American' unless Daniel Webster, Abraham Lincoln, Benjamin Harrison (the 23rd prez for those in the know) and Mark Twain were 'anti-American.' This is only the desperate dirty rhetoric we're SO used to from the right wingers on Jimmy's blog for MONTHS now; it's their loud, but with ever diminishing returns, 'piggy grunts'... "

H wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:21 AM:

" Boy Jimmy, you look like you're running scared and (as usual) try to use the r-word (racism) and the other h-word (hate) to somehow assure yourself of confidence in Obama that is obviously shaken and deeply cracked. Rush Limbaugh's e-mail to Jonathan Martin at the Politico merely stated, "Secretary Powell says this endorsement's not about race. Okay, fine. What I'm doing now Jonathan is researching Powell's past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal white candidates that he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with." Mr. Limbaugh merely stated the truth, and some part of you is disturbed by that. "

Cagefighter wrote on Oct 22, 2008 11:13 AM:

" Starfish, the comments made at 925 and 940 re Biden are right on. You can access his exact words on youtube, or the exact text of that entire speech Biden made. Also on youtube is Obamas speech regarding wanting to disarm America. Now, Bidens statement and Obamas statement are each frightening in their own right. But together?! Absolutely horrifying. "

Jeff wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:09 AM:

" Right on Big E, you hit the nail on the head. Oh, Jimmy, you left out some things: Obama's buddies Rev Wright and Bill Ayers ARE anti-American. Anyone with a clue can see that. As far as racism, you left out some liberal racists and race baiters Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Geraldine Ferraro, Murtha, Rev Wright, Biden himself (amazed during the primary that Obama was articulate). You liberals love to praise the black folks who amaze you that they actually have brains, and can speak! Obama too, has made racist comments. They're in his book. "

Starfish wrote on Oct 22, 2008 10:02 AM:

" I don't disagree with Big E that Colin Powell MAY be attempting an apology of sorts. It is not quite too little too late. I do remember reading, though, that as he was given the case he had to present to the UN, he read the material and threw the papers down saying, "I can't say this (expletive)!" Had he tendered his resignation at that point, he would be a truly iconic figure. Sadly, such is not in the genes of of a good soldier and Powell is nothing if not a good soldier. "

Starfish wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:57 AM:

" Wow! Biden's "he will be tested" has now morphed into ". . .being attacked by terrorists." Gosh, thanks Mr Kizarny, for clearing that up. Ms Backmann analysis only went so far after all. Mainly, though, Jimmy, I am SICK AND TIRED OF FALSE EQUIVALENCIES like that proffered by Mr. Kizarny. Floating whole cloth lies about Michell Obama's "elitist taste" from the leaked room-service order (lobster, cavier) from a hotel she didn't even stay at (thank you Mr. Murdoch, Mr. Limbaugh) is NOT AN EQUIVALENT ATTACK to demonstrating McCain's aversion to regulation. "

Mr. Miagi wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:46 AM:

" The media doesn't have to portray Biden's comments one way or another. He was stating a fact that the past two presidents have faced a difficult situation in their first year in office (Clinton w/ Somalia, Bush w/ 9-11). I love how Kizarny twists the words into "terrorist" attack. That ol' hot button word that sends the repubs into a frenzy (even when it's not directly quoted apparently). "

Izzy Fabin wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:40 AM:

" Regarding the very real fears of Joe Biden noted below: This is another example of the widespread liberal bias. Can you imagine the outcry and outrage if McCain or Palin expressed these fears? They would have been called intolerant, hateful, and nasty. I will make a prediction--the media will attempt to portray Bidens statement as simply saying that is "what would happen with any President". Yeah, every time a President is elected, we get attacked by terrorists. "

Big E wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:36 AM:

" The irony of the Colin Powell endorsement in incredible. One of the main reasons some Americans (mostly liberals) dislike, or hate, G.W. Bush is due to the invasion of Iraq. Powell was the one man who could have stood up to the president and stopped the invasion. Remember Powell trying to convice the U.N.? Deep down this endorsement has nothing to do with Obama but rather Powell clearing his own conscience. "

Kizarny wrote on Oct 22, 2008 9:25 AM:

" Hold up, Jimmy. It was Obamas own running mate-Joe Biden-who stated we are in danger of being attacked by terrorists if Obama is elected. People on both sides seem to have a healthy, rational fear of what will happen if Obama is elected. Fear isnt always bad if its grounded in reality. Also, re the 2nd part of your blog, there is no "Black-racism",(or "white-racism", for that matter). The racism you speak of is simply "racism", pure and simple. Blacks who support Obama just because he is Black are racists just as much as those who wont vote for him because he is Black. Just as women who supported Hillary or Palin just because they are women are sexists, etc. A lot of the racism is evident right on these blogs from the so-called liberals(Harsch, BGS, Welch "hoping for a Black President, support of affirmative action, etc). "


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