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Published - Thursday, November 20, 2008

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FBI releases its river drowning report to the Tribune

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It took more than a year, but the FBI’s report into the La Crosse river drownings finally arrived at the Tribune on Tuesday.

Excitement quickly turned to disappointment as I made my way through the condensed report full of redactions.

The copy I received looks like Swiss cheese.

Just nine pages of the 31-page report made it the Tribune. Paragraphs and sections were omitted due to title 5, section 552 of the United States Code that protects “personnel and medical files” that would “constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.”

For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t qualify my intentions as an “unwarranted invasion.”

Even my own name is unnecessarily omitted from my open records request, the last page in the report.

On Sept. 10, 2007, the Tribune filed an open records request with the FBI for access to its report into the La Crosse river drownings after La Crosse Police Chief Ed Kondracki announced the FBI concluded no foul play or serial offender in the area’s river deaths.

I was strung along by countless letters from the FBI stating my request was “being reviewed by an analyst” until the report’s arrival Tuesday.

The report states that the FBI’s National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime was contacted in late 2006 concerning the deaths of eight young men in La Crosse area rivers between July 12, 1997, and Sept. 30, 2006. Each case involved a man who drowned after drinking.

The NCAVC was asked to review each death investigation “in an effort to determine whether commonalities existed which could imply that a serial offender was active in La Crosse.” NCAVC was also asked to determine whether additional investigation should be done into any of the deaths.

The report provides a short summary of the circumstances of the deaths of all eight men n Richard Hlavary, Charles Blatz, Anthony Skifton, Nathan Kapfer, Jeffrey Geesey, Patrick Runigen, Jared Dion and Lucas Homan n including their age, date of death, where they were last seen and how their body was discovered.

Notes from the victim’s autopsies also are redacted from the report.

In each case, NCAVC concludes that unless someone comes forward with additional information, no further investigation is necessary. The Homan case is excluded from the conclusion because it was still under investigation when the report was prepared.

NCAVC concluded there is no evidence to support a serial killer is praying on young drunken men, based, in part, on the lack of forensic evidence, trauma and suspicious circumstances.

“None of the cases have been linked forensically, and there is no singular or unusual behavior reflected in the cases that would support their linkage to a common offender,” the report stated. “The lack of trauma … known altercations, or being hit by a boat, is extremely unusual in homicide investigations, let alone in serial killing investigations.”

The agency also reviewed reports from eight people who fell into rivers and survived. None reported being contacted by someone before falling in or being forced in the water. All eight had been drinking.

For you conspiracy theorists, pay attention: NCAVC acknowledges that based on the victim’s high level of drunkenness, chilly temperatures and treacherous waters where they died “it is not usual that many of the victims died of accidental drowning with alcohol intoxication as a contributing factor.”

Disagree? I’d give you the phone number to contact the author of the report, but that too was redacted.
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confused wrote on Apr 2, 2009 11:43 PM:

" Who,s going to send there kid to a college in a community where there is a potential s/k...? This would have a great impact on $$$$$$$$$ flow for far too many pockets. "

sickofyourbs wrote on Dec 9, 2008 6:28 PM:

" bonvais
wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:17 PM:

" What about the fact that the park near the water is where gays go to meet other gays? (Pettibone) Did they test the guys that drowned to see if any sex drugs were involved? "


what about the fact that plenty of straight couples have been caught at both parks engaging in sexual activities? How frequently do you hear about people that are gay molesting and assualiting kids/teens/adults sexually? now tell me how many times do you hear about Straight Males doing this during any given timeframe?

Lets move onto the real topic at hand, how to teach people that binge drinking is not a healthy lifestyle and sadly these men have lost their lives, if not only in part, to it... "

Willie wrote on Dec 9, 2008 10:41 AM:

" Drinking habits have changed since I left college 15 years ago. Red Bull just came out back then and they were just experimenting with Jaager bombs, now you can't go anywhere without listening to young people's excapades into how many Jaager bombs they drank, and who acted crazier. Ask anyone in the emergency medical or law enforcement professions about how BAC's are on the rise on the average. There are more blitzed people than ever out there. Why does the Tribune continue to pursue and persist on perpetuating the myth of a serial killer? "

Willie wrote on Dec 9, 2008 10:41 AM:

" Why do small children desire to go to water's edge? To throw something in? To feel how cold the water is? Drunks act like small children all the time. Do they walk to river's edge to urinate (evidence to support that in Skifton's case)? Do they go to swim to cool off do to the combination effects of stimulants (that overheat the body) and the numbing effects of alcohol that make you feel warm? "

Who did it wrote on Dec 3, 2008 10:27 AM:

" Do you think it is a group? One person? Or just an accident? "

anneberlin wrote on Nov 25, 2008 5:03 AM:

" Sad enough to loose these individuals...

Sad people have to argue about it & I'd guess the ones that are so passionate to do so are the same type of people to dictate rather than get involved.

I am glad I don't reduce myself to cutting down other's opinions & thoughts.

"Post a comment" <--- Not a debate "

to the drunk mind wrote on Nov 24, 2008 5:46 PM:

" See comment below of 'to 9:32am' post. Yeah get a clue, There is something fishy going on alright, people who think drunk people make logical decisions in the middle of night. So have you ever been drunk; or been sober trying to talk to someone drunk who has done something dumb, the volunteers in park deal with it all the time. The cops should have NUMEROUS reports and videos of drunk males ALONE insisting they are going towards home/campus, by going over the dark "street"/ river! It happens all the time, drunks doing what drunks do when drunk. Nothing ever in news when drunks stopped by volunteeres, only when drownings happen. Someone should get the cops videos and put them in Tribune link, see how many times drunks INSIST they are going towards home, wanting to go across "street"/river. But Joe/Jill Public never hear about this 'in the news'. "

Who in their drunk mind would walk to the river... wrote on Nov 23, 2008 11:22 PM:

" No one, exactly...

Something fishy is going on...


Get a clue people "

What now... wrote on Nov 23, 2008 11:19 PM:

" Who cares what the fbi has discovered in their invesitgation, Is this over? I certainly hope it is over, but what if it is not. I agree that our campus is not any different than any other now or ever has been. Students are going to drink. The people that are discussing the causes of this "problem" were more than likely part of the "problem" 10 - 30 years ago. Drinking was only a factor in the unfortunate circumstances. Drowning was the cause of death, but how was the river introduced to the victims. I dont think it was accidental. "

Seriusly Now wrote on Nov 23, 2008 8:14 AM:

" 43 or more comments and not one suggestion that perhaps the area should confront the "culture of alcohol" and make a serious effort to stop binge drinking with curbs on happy hours, education and enforcement of public drunkeness.

Instead, you settle on volunteer drunk-catchers standing along the river. Pathetic.

THERE'S the problem. Making this behavior seem like some kind of normal rite of passage is the killer. And all those of you who claim this kind of behavior is a "right" and a "freedom" are aiding in the deaths.

Sober up and smarten up, La Crosse. You are a national embarrassment. "

Wait a minute... wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:44 PM:

" If there are no signs of blood on the rocks indicating they fell, where is the blood on the rocks indicating they were pushed by the killer(s)? That argument can not be sustained because there would more likely be physical evidence from someone pushed into the river against their will than from some drunk that CLIMBED down the rocks and then fell in. I can see a drunk doing that. Apparantly many of you haven't been around a lot of drunks to know what they are really capable of. Unfortunately I have. "

hey stella and sophie and just a thought wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:40 AM:

" What if it is just lost confused drunks falling in, you would be sickening serial killer rumor mongering wishers aren't you, causing more pain to families. Sophie, open your eyes, something is different since 18 drinking age, there were many buildings along front street, no direct access to park/river, now there is walkway with a one foot curb, no rocks. Eau Claire has shallow river that you can walk across, blocked by heavy tree/bushes. Dubuque riverwalk is no where near drinking area like Riverside. Winona has a standing slough next to downtown, no strong river current. None were injured by rocks, so if they did fall down and had injuries you killer wishers would say 'see someone did it'. But yeah its that good ol smiley gang, read the article in Minn, NO FACTS just more rumors. "

The drownings have STOPPED wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:14 AM:

" What is the only thing that has changed, the Riverwatch and police reserves are DOING something about it, VOLUNTEERING their unpaid time 'late at night' to babysit wandering drunks going near the river. They are not wasting time spreading rumors. Put up video cameras to SHUT UP the serial killer wishers rumor pushing. When the cameras show drunk male falling into river ALONE, the killer wishers will go away, but NOT the volunteers who still will be STOPPING them, unlike camera. "

Why are they not posting my thoughts wrote on Nov 18, 2008 9:43 PM:

" I already said this once and they would not post it, The smiley face murders should be considered. "

Stella wrote on Nov 18, 2008 6:31 PM:

" These drownings are so sad, we have lost young men with great potential, their families, friends, teammates, and communities all suffer because of these deaths. I'm glad that there is more awareness and its nice to see volunteers dedicated enough to do what they can to try to prevent these tragedies. Drinking is certainly a problem on many college campuses, but to be the only cause of these drownings in LaCrosse, that is hard for me to accept. "

Sophie wrote on Nov 18, 2008 6:30 PM:

" I went to UW-L many years ago, drinking age was 18, local bars were wild and crowded many evenings; but no drowningsthank God. People walked all the time, they ended up down by the River, but do one fell in and drowned that I remember. I recall one young man getting hit by a car and killed as he walked home late one night.

UW-Eau Claire has a river running through campus, drownings because of drinking, hasnt been a problem. Dubuque has a beautiful River Walk running a long length of the River, Im not aware of drownings there either. Why LaCrosse? Our drinking in LaCrosse isnt that much different then other college cities or campuses? Yet our numbers of drowning deaths are excessive and suspect, we need to keep looking for answers. "

Smiley Face Theory Believer wrote on Nov 17, 2008 10:06 PM:

" It is a serial killing gang, it has to be. "

doctor9 wrote on Nov 17, 2008 9:34 AM:

" To 'what's up doc' - I challenge you to provide a single citation showing that the "majority" of these drowning victims entered the river at Riverside Park. That is pure speculation on your part, and is not supported by the locations of the bodies. Also, to Mr. Barstool, by your "process of elimination" logic, you may as well eliminate every single drowning with some arbitrary piece of trivia, thus proving that no one has ever drowned in the river! You can't cherry-pick the data to make it fit your own theory. "

just a thought wrote on Nov 16, 2008 8:04 PM:

" Have any of you tried to walk down the rocks along the edge of the river, sober? Nearly impossible. If someone is so drunk that they don't know where they are or are leaving a staggering trail in the snow, they would NEVER be able to walk down those rocks without alot of help or breaking a leg or two or worse. I'm not saying it is a serial killer, but I certainly remember reports of more than one of the victims hats being found on the rocks. I don't know how they could ever make it into the river with out leaving blood on the rocks when they fall. "

Willie wrote on Nov 15, 2008 9:28 PM:

" What about the others that have drowned in the river in the past 12 years? I mean the ones that weren't drunk, college aged men? Kind of makes the pattern dissapear doesn't it? You can throw them out of the mix to make a pattern, but that isn't very scientific is it? Case closed. "

whats up doc wrote on Nov 14, 2008 9:08 PM:

" Lets see, the volunteers at Riverwatch are at least DOING something to STOP problem unlike your 'empty/useless' blog whining. They volunteer in Riverside Park because it is closest to downtown bars, it is where the majority have fallen in, unless they swim across current from other side of river, it is where they can be monitored closely by cops in case of trouble from people like you, so it is where the Riverwatch has stopped many drunk males ALONE heading to river or already in, yes suicide attempts they have stopped in past. They have many reports to PROVE IT over last years. But you keep your disgusting wishing for another drunk drowning so you can keep your 'tally' going and keep spreading your rumors to all other sick wishers. Like most people know, the "obvious" makes it mysterious to killer wishers. "

to doc zero wrote on Nov 14, 2008 4:42 PM:

" Your barstool logic is wrong and fact-less as usual. Melancon was watched ALONE going over the bridge railing, Holman buddy was with him at river and lied that he wasn't (later convicted of obstructing/lieing). So two off your so-called list. Another was chased into river after barfight, no mystery there. Another fell in snow/ice covered Black river, his only staggerring set of tracks in snow, no mystery there. So your list is down to 7 drownings already in 11 years, but keep saying myth/joke 1 a year. I notice you don't put in dates, I wonder why, because 2-3 yr further rips apart your one a year serial killer wish. Funny you don't mention drunk others who have survived after falling in river, they never said they were pushed, but admit not knowing where they were. Put up video cameras already to shut this rumor monger up. "

bonvais wrote on Nov 13, 2008 12:17 PM:

" What about the fact that the park near the water is where gays go to meet other gays? (Pettibone) Did they test the guys that drowned to see if any sex drugs were involved? "

doctor9 wrote on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 AM:

" More facts: Since 1997, there have been 11 guys found drowned in the river. That's 1 a year on average. Hlavaty, Blatz, Skifton, Kapfer, Geesey, Runigen, Dion, Stumlin, Radel, Homan, & Melancon. There is no proof that ANY of them entered the river at Riverside Park. So why is Riverwatch down there? Because it's a convenient place to walk around. Meanwhile, the fact remains: unless patrols cover both shores for several miles, (and don't forget the bridges), they are making an empty, useless gesture. Their time could be better spent on other things. I realize those volunteers have good intentions, and I can sympathize, I just think they are really misguided. They are fooling themselves if they truly think that every drunk they encounter at the park is a prevented drowning. "

doctor9 wrote on Nov 12, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Nice to see that someone finally agrees with me that Riverwatch cannot possibly do anything productive. Yes, it's true! They WOULD have to watch miles and miles of shore to be effective. That is PRECISELY my point. They are INEFFECTIVE. Pretending that I have accused a witness of being a serial killer is a sad attempt to turn me into some sort of villain because I speak up for common sense. "

Twosox wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:39 PM:

" Read the drownings article, you all might change your mind when you connect ALL the dots!
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-150862797.html "

Froto wrote on Nov 11, 2008 9:45 AM:

" The good part of this is that at least some are trying to understand the situation and attempting to come up with suggestions that may help. Efforts from all sides are needed. the sad part is that this, as with many other issues turns to issues of Black and White, Right and Wrong, and all act as experts and denegrage each other, rather than pulling together to work on the problem and possible solution. "

to wannabe doc wrote on Nov 10, 2008 11:01 PM:

" Lets see, common sense would say no way can someone/riverwatch in Riverside Park see anyone in the dark, over half mile away, across wide river, through trees/leaves, fall off a bridge near Pettibone campground. A 21 yr old lady did see him fall off bridge ALONE, but you wacko then blamed her for being killer, except she was 12 when drownings started. So doc thinks the few volunteers of Riverwatch are suppose to patrol the many miles and both shores of the rivers in whole area and even are responsible for 'letting any drownings happen'. That is plain stupid. Riverwatch covers Riverside Park, where most drownings have occurred. The last Riverside drowning two years ago, Holman, was in park with his buddy who lied but then admits being there when he went in. So only non-witnessed drowning was over FOUR YEARS AGO. "

Ref doc wacko wrote on Nov 10, 2008 10:34 PM:

" Wow, your 'hatred' of the volunteers and students of Riverwatch would lead most people to think you are the suspect in the drownings. You sound very angry and frustrated that more drownings have not happened. Typical sick serial killer wisher. Your barstool gossip is a joke, it NEVER was one a year and your so called average is flawed since some years there was 2-3 a year. Only your blogs are "useless/pointless" waste of time, not the Riverwatch which is at least doing something positive to stop problem. But that sure bothers you doesn't it, hmmmm. "

doctor9 wrote on Nov 10, 2008 9:51 AM:

" This non-report is also disappointing in that it doesn't reveal anything about the local investigators' methods. I could've sworn that the chief said that the FBI was contacted to verify that their procedures were sound. The time gap between the river deaths is a little over a year on average, so the latest gap is not that great an anomaly yet. No mention of that at all. To those who are in love with Riverwatch, remember that someone jumped off the Cass St. bridge in full sight of the park. They didn't/couldn't stop him. Riverwatch is useless and pointless. Finally, it's "preying" not "praying". If this is a direct quote, at least include "[sic]" after the misspelling. "

amom wrote on Nov 10, 2008 8:55 AM:

" And if you follow the reports on KSTP.com you will notice they are getting nowhere in their pursuit of this 'story'. Just more ambiguous statements and suggestions. The FBI was contacted to get people to accept this facts, but this witch hunt will continue as the legend grows. "

what about... wrote on Nov 9, 2008 8:09 PM:

" they left out the murder of chris jenkins who needed 4 years of hard investigation for proof...if all of these men had 4 years of that same intense investigation...who knows a few more of them may have been homicide victims :( "

amom wrote on Nov 8, 2008 12:35 PM:

" It has been said time and again that the women who go out drinking stay together in pairs or in groups. Therefore, they are there for each other. Even if all are drunk, another might have enough judgment left to be watchful against predators and rivers. People don't want to believe that these accidents are the result of drinking. Serial killers escalate in the numbers of their killings and the violence. It isn't happeningn somewhere else; it is all about the drinking. "

jy54601 wrote on Nov 8, 2008 9:04 AM:

" Just the fact that the FBI was ASKED to investigate after the police repeatedly said there wasn't a serial killer suspected is suspect, don't ya think?
The drownings have 'stopped' due to awareness, volunteers, etc.? Maybe they've stopped because the perpertrator has stopped, been jailed for whatever reason, died, moved on to greener pastures.....
No matter what the local police and/or FBI say to quell the publics fears, I STILL find it more than odd that someone too drunk to walk would then WALK all that way just to simply fall in the river and drown "

to 932am wrote on Nov 7, 2008 8:57 PM:

" Why are most drunk drivers MALE, why do they drive into trees, houses, poles, other people, etc, why do drunk males walk into moving trains, why do drunk males walk into other people houses they think is theirs, why do drunk males pass out in own vomit on sidewalks outside in freezing tempertures, why do drunk males blah blah blah. This is all odd but really happened recently in La Crosse. Of course they wouldn't get confused because you didn't, because everyone drunk acts the same right. I think video cameras by river would end the question WHY, because when you are drunk you do STUPID things! But then you can blame the boogieman, no woman, no no monster was using mind control not seen on camera. "

To gevilmom wrote on Nov 7, 2008 6:02 PM:

" You are one of the disgusting serial killer wishers aren't you. Even with video cameras showing drunk males staggerring into the river, you still would have your sick wish 'someone' is leading these men to the river? The problem with video camera's would only show what happens and couldn't stop it. WAIT there IS SOMETHING better than video, its called VOLUNTEERS including students, who not only 'see' the staggerring drunks ALONE going into river, but they STOP THEM. MANY TIMES "ALONE" for last two years. They are ALWAY'S MALES ALONE. NNNNever NEVER ever has alone 'female' been stopped by river. WHY, who knows, but they can prove it with many reports that drunk MALES ALONE taken to detox. Yes it's UNUSUAL, most including cops agree, but your FALSE FACTLESS wish is SICK. "

information wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:56 AM:

" if you go to KSTP.COM and look at the investigate report section/ smiley face murders they have a total of like 40 people across the US dying in the same way? hmm "

Twilite wrote on Nov 7, 2008 10:43 AM:

" Remember the guy this past summer who was drunk, jumped in to try and swim across, then almost drowned in the middle...but some boater picked him up? It could still be happening, people are just watching out for it now. And, in terms of why guys, not girls. Maybe it's because guys are out to prove something more so than girls, whether sober or drunk. Maybe a few of them thought they'd swim across the river, just like the guy this summer. Also, sorry guys, but girls tend to look out for their friends more than a guy. "

gvillemom wrote on Nov 7, 2008 9:32 AM:

" I just find it odd that only young men have been the vicitms here...college girls get drunk too and it affects them even more...why aren't they ending up in the river?...I went to school at UWL and my friends and I often went drinking downtown (drinking age then was 19!)...we would get drunk and see many others just as drunk, but no one ended up on the river...is it really that far out of reach to think that someone is leading these men to the river?...again, no women and all roughly the same age...no evidence doesn't mean it isn't happening...it just means someone is good at covering their tracks "

Jim Maas wrote on Nov 6, 2008 8:37 AM:

" I remember when the FBI was called on to investigate spys, interstate bank robberies and kidnappings. WHY in the world are they called on to investigate drownings??? What a waste! "

enuff already wrote on Nov 5, 2008 10:50 PM:

" move on now!! "

Krusty wrote on Nov 5, 2008 5:39 PM:

" So when do we get to see the report? "

Thanks for report wrote on Nov 5, 2008 11:47 AM:

" It was what any normal thinking person thought it was. Normal drinking was not the problem, binge drinking drunks was, typical result getting confused, lost or depressed (alcohol is depressant). Many drunks ALONE stopped at river bank by volunteer police reserves and student riverwatch late at night. Tribune has reported since that few drunks ALONE made it into river but were saved, many more stopped at banks, GOOD JOB to volunteers. The serial killer wishers in past were sickening. "

Jackson wrote on Nov 5, 2008 7:02 AM:

" Obviously from the responses Ive read the report is doing its job then even if it was cut to swiss cheese down to 9 pages from 33.
If theres nothing to hide publish the whole report then and honestly a yr to release that 9 pages?? Reminds me of a song by Eric Burdon
"Letter from the County Farm"
Well see, but what you people in Little ole LaCrosse might not know is they have been having these same type drownings in other parts of the country now suggesting maybe that the killer has moved on.Ya think? "

Local wrote on Nov 4, 2008 8:18 PM:

" The drunks still end up at the edge of the river but with the river watch taking place it has stopped many more from taking the plunge.

The FBI report was clear, unless some other evidence is revealed, there is no evidence of a serial killer. "

amom wrote on Nov 4, 2008 7:34 PM:

" They haven't 'stopped' drowning, but the people of the LaCrosse community are being educated on the dangers of being alone when drinking and the watch teams at the river have been successful at preventing some drownings. Change doesn't happen overnight, but the time lapse between the last drowning and the next one is going to be much longer. Hopefully, years. "

JenniferG wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:13 PM:

" Well, Jackson... maybe because of the attention the schools and community are now giving this problem of binge drinking. The schools (high schools and colleges) are educating their youth on the topic and there is also the River Watch program that has kept some people away from the banks of the river (documented here in the Trib) as well as the La Crosse PD increasing foot patrols on big festival weekends and events here in town. "

BRF Resident wrote on Nov 4, 2008 6:04 PM:

" The drownings have stopped or slowed down due to the awareness. Perhaps people are finally getting smarter and not letting their drunken friends wonder off. Also, the parks are being watched down by the river. The only serial killer out there is named ALCOHOL.
In response to blad above, you can be the next one in the river for being so stupid with your comment about getting drunk! "

Jackson wrote on Nov 4, 2008 5:48 PM:

" So ask yourself this then, Why did it stop???
If those dumb drunken student theories are correct then they still should be falling into the river and drowning.Theres not been a drowning in how long? "

D wrote on Nov 4, 2008 5:08 PM:

" I am 22 years old and have been drunk to the point where I could have ended up in the River and never even known it. I grew up in the area, have lived here all my life. Even still...intoxication to this level makes all knowledge and instinct go out the window. You walk in a direction, and the pavement turns into ice cold water.

It is so simple, but people like to create fantasies. Humans always look for "something to believe in" whether good or bad. Nothing can just happen. "

blad wrote on Nov 4, 2008 4:06 PM:

" So after all that still nothing is figured out. Screw it lets drink!!! "

Mack wrote on Nov 4, 2008 3:57 PM:

" This isn't much of a report on the report. "

getoverit wrote on Nov 4, 2008 3:43 PM:

" You must be kidding me...these kids died because they were immature and chose to drink to a level not advised by anyone other than their immature peers. They weren't pushed or seduced into the water. The theorists want to believe that someone must have had a hand in killing these boys because they don't want to admit that alcohol is the real serial killer in all of these cases, and the alcohol was consumed voluntarily by all. I grieve for the families over their losses, and am thankful for those who volunteer their time to patrol the river, but I firmly believe that poor choices led to deaths in every case. "

Jules wrote on Nov 4, 2008 3:11 PM:

" I don't think talk of a serial killer will ever die down, especially since you get the occasional article regarding the Smiley Face Killers and the investigation into the same. I just hope more tragedy is averted by awareness and the help of the River Watch. "


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